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phaolo: I always ended up killing my own guys : (
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ZFR: I had the same problem till I decided to target the enemy.
Genious! I never thought about it.
Hope the games get revived after possible release here.
Got old package (official trilogy+fan made pack approved by devs) and with Magma patches it still give me blast (for rest of the team too).
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karnak1: Now that 2K is on GOG can we hope to see the series here one day?
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Grargar: Maybe if GOG can convince them that any of their old games can sell...
Of course they can. There is no even reason to convincing. Even if their sells would be small it still would be more than zero, like they are today.
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xordiw: Myth was one of the best games ever made.
That I really agree on. In my opinion no videogame has such a griping story/narrative.
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xordiw: Of course they can. There is no even reason to convincing. Even if their sells would be small it still would be more than zero, like they are today.
If it was as easy/simple as you think, we wouldn't be waiting ages for some of the games. Here, let me post some examples:

"Activision is here. Where is SWAT 4?"
"Bethesda is here. Where is Terminator?"
"EA is here. Where is Black and White?"
"Square-Enix is here. Where is Final Fantasy?"
"Ubisoft is here. Where is Prince of Persia?"
"Warner Bros is here. Where is No One Lives Forever?"
And so on...

Over the years, GOG has been trying to convince the other publishers that they can get money by selling their back catalog. As the missing games show, though, they haven't always been successful at doing so, for a variety of reasons, including publisher disinterest.
Post edited August 21, 2016 by Grargar
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xordiw: Of course they can. There is no even reason to convincing. Even if their sells would be small it still would be more than zero, like they are today.
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Grargar: If it was as easy/simple as you think, we wouldn't be waiting ages for some of the games. Here, let me post some examples:

"Activision is here. Where is SWAT 4?"
"Bethesda is here. Where is Terminator?"
"EA is here. Where is Black and White?"
"Square-Enix is here. Where is Final Fantasy?"
"Ubisoft is here. Where is Prince of Persia?"
"Warner Bros is here. Where is No One Lives Forever?"
And so on...

Over the years, GOG has been trying to convince the other publishers that they can get money by selling their back catalog. As the missing games show, though, they haven't always been successful at doing so, for a variety of reasons, including publisher disinterest.
I don't know what you mean. If that 0<1 than yes it is easy. If that publishers think about it or don't think about other things too - I never sad that.

There are reasons why corporations hold titles and won't sell them or let others do remaster or make new game in series. Maybe they want to make some stupid smartphone game and don't want a competition selling in small numbers on GOG.

Maybe if somebody would see it they would make similar game and had money, and the corporation itself don't want to because it goes for lowest common denominator and the risk for it is too much.

Maybe they have some secret contract and because of that can't sell those games.

I just wrote basically that 1>0 and that's it. There is no reason to convincing. It is a mathematical fact. No boxes, no CD's, GOG sells, they get money. But of course in corporate world things are not that simple.
Post edited August 21, 2016 by xordiw
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xordiw: No boxes, no CD's,
There is however support, and manhours worth of checking if the game runs correctly on all the different modern system combinations, so there is some initial cost involved. If the sales won't compensate for it, they'd be selling at a loss.
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Grargar: Over the years, GOG has been trying to convince the other publishers that they can get money by selling their back catalog. As the missing games show, though, they haven't always been successful at doing so
And they managed to pull some spectacular successes that were thought to be beyond impossible. Fallout, which everyone was convinced was gone forever given the way they parted the first time, Doom, and recently Dragon Age. These were all hopeless cases. Despite all their failures, this is one thing GOG seem to be good at, so there is always hope.
Post edited August 21, 2016 by ZFR
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xordiw: snip
You are assuming that it is free to rerelease a game. It's not. That imaginary 1 might end up as -1 if the game doesn't sell well at all.
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xordiw: No boxes, no CD's,
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ZFR: There is however support, and manhours worth of checking if the game runs correctly on all the different modern system combinations, so there is some initial cost involved. If the sales won't compensate for it, they'd be selling at a loss.
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Grargar: Over the years, GOG has been trying to convince the other publishers that they can get money by selling their back catalog. As the missing games show, though, they haven't always been successful at doing so
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ZFR: And they managed to pull some spectacular successes that were thought to be beyond impossible. Fallout, which everyone was convinced was gone forever given the way they parted the first time, Doom, and recently Dragon Age. These were all hopeless cases. Despite all their failures, this is one thing GOG seem to be good at, so there is always hope.
Yeah, well... But does it not goes to GOG? Is it not GOG that is doing those things and not the developers?
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xordiw: snip
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Grargar: You are assuming that it is free to rerelease a game. It's not. That imaginary 1 might end up as -1 if the game doesn't sell well at all.
Oh, so it is the IP right holders that are paying the GOG for selling their old games and making support not the opposite? The GOG team making them compatible (which is not hard in most cases), support and selling and getting prearranged % of sales. The right holders do everything and GOG just gets money, they only pay for site maintenance and answer emails. OK I understand now. I thought it was opposite.
Post edited August 21, 2016 by xordiw
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xordiw: Oh, so it is the IP right holders that are paying the GOG for selling their old games and making support not the opposite? The GOG team making them compatible (which is not hard in most cases), support and selling and getting prearranged % of sales. The right holders do everything and GOG just gets money, they only pay for site maintenance and answer emails. OK I understand now. I thought it was opposite.
GOG does the technical stuff most of the times. However, the costs of rereleasing an old game aren't limited to the technical side. There is also paying a lawyer to find and proofread the ownership documents (which might be buried beneath who knows how many other documents), contract writing/signing, the renewal of expired trademarks and all other kinds of costs not directly visible to outsiders.

In the end, GOG is trying to convince a publisher that by spending some time and money to resurrect an old game, they have a chance of profiting from it. Unfortunately, they don't always succeed.
Post edited August 21, 2016 by Grargar
It's a shame these games aren't well known and forgotten. They are some of the best games ever made.
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macuahuitlgog: It's a shame these games aren't well known and forgotten. They are some of the best games ever made.
Yes, they are extra class level. Something like Fallout 1&2, Doom 1&2, Quake, Duke Nukem3D, Freespace 2, Master of Magic, Dungeon Keeper, X-Com, Might and Magic IV & V - World Of Xeen and M&M6 and 7, Heroes of Might & Magic 3 Complete, Master of Orion 2, Troika games, Outcast, Jedi Knight series, etc. - basically the games that are still playable after many years, were good and will be good in the future. All of them have either open source engine and / or unofficial patches and are easily playable on modern machines. It's a real shame Myth 1&2 are not on GOG. Let's hope it will change soon.
I was under the impression they were well known so the minor smattering of votes comes as quite a surprise. Only have a physical copy of the third one, and the second one got lost during a house move, so a GOG release of this quality series would be most welcome.
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macuahuitlgog: It's a shame these games aren't well known and forgotten. They are some of the best games ever made.
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xordiw: Yes, they are extra class level. Something like Fallout 1&2, Doom 1&2, Quake, Duke Nukem3D, Freespace 2, Master of Magic, Dungeon Keeper, X-Com, Might and Magic IV & V - World Of Xeen and M&M6 and 7, Heroes of Might & Magic 3 Complete, Master of Orion 2, Troika games, Outcast, Jedi Knight series, etc. - basically the games that are still playable after many years, were good and will be good in the future. All of them have either open source engine and / or unofficial patches and are easily playable on modern machines. It's a real shame Myth 1&2 are not on GOG. Let's hope it will change soon.
Someone needs to bitch slap whoever owns the rights to the Myth games.
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xordiw: Yes, they are extra class level. Something like Fallout 1&2, Doom 1&2, Quake, Duke Nukem3D, Freespace 2, Master of Magic, Dungeon Keeper, X-Com, Might and Magic IV & V - World Of Xeen and M&M6 and 7, Heroes of Might & Magic 3 Complete, Master of Orion 2, Troika games, Outcast, Jedi Knight series, etc. - basically the games that are still playable after many years, were good and will be good in the future. All of them have either open source engine and / or unofficial patches and are easily playable on modern machines. It's a real shame Myth 1&2 are not on GOG. Let's hope it will change soon.
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macuahuitlgog: Someone needs to bitch slap whoever owns the rights to the Myth games.
That would be Take Two (TTWO).