real.geizterfahr: Kill the known scammers threads! They're useless. Everyone can create as many accounts as he wants. And nes won't enter giveaways with accounts called "rep-punisher" or "moronhunter" anyway. I'm sure he's got a shitload of accounts that aren't obvious alts. Every single scammer can create a new account if he ends up on this list.
real.geizterfahr: And how about you read what others write. Oh right, only what YOU write and YOUR opinion really matter. And if someone disagrees they CLEARLY are not reading what you are writing...
Frankly, YOU ARE WRONG. They are not useless. They make people aware of this problem. They make people aware of the ways these jerks are attempting to scam people and knowledge is power. Yes, they can try to change their names, or create new alts, but the way they write and the way they attempt to scam will stay similar enough to be detected.
I've personally found these threads to be HIGHLY useful and have managed to generally avoid most of these ripoff artists from taking games I've given away. So for you to claim there is no value at all is foolish. This thread and the other have helped me a lot and I'm sure it has helped many others as well.
But let's look at the victim-blaming in this thread...going backwards...
Post 308 - You - "without starting lists with a shitload of unconfirmed names on it"
You have proof for this? Most of those names are pretty clearly nes alts. FACT!
Post 300 - You again - "Guys and girls, you do know that all that keeps those trolls alive is the attention you're giving them?"
Again bullshit. When you ignore a loudmouth troll or scammer, they tend to just get louder and more bold. Instead, you blame us for the scammers....you are wrong...
Post 295 - Hedwards - "All they're doing is playing into the hands of a handful of trolls. Providing a score board and a way of scumming up all the giveaways in the process." "but I do think people need to stop feeding the trolls. The scamming here is probably not even motivated by wanting the games at this point."
Again more bullshit blaming people for "feeding the trolls" and not blaming the trolls themselves....
Post 237 - Hedwards - A post full of made-up bullshit. Someone claims they are broke, take a game and the next day its on their trade list and Hedwards is claiming "its not proof" because they "could have" bought another copy. All this for his poorly thought out post about why the thread is useless...same bad arguments you are making now....
Instead, you and Hedwards want to blame the existence of this thread for all the current problems. Maybe you can also blame the media for the popularity of all the Nigerian phishing scams too. But I believe, and I think any thoughtful person will realize, the real problem are the scammers themselves. That publicizing their transgressions is helpful to the public. That publicizing it, does not make it worse. That it is indeed helping many of us to get our gifts to people who better deserve them. Without these threads, the scammers would be taking off with more games, not less.