Posted January 02, 2015
Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
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phaolo
Durik - Half-Orc
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Emevo
Praise Theodore!
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From Denmark
Posted January 02, 2015
Sachys: That predates this (as posted just a while ago by Grargar)
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/known_scammers/post1594
I am sorry, I did not see that.http://www.gog.com/forum/general/known_scammers/post1594
Post edited January 02, 2015 by Xardas722
Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
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Posted January 02, 2015
Sachys: That predates this (as posted just a while ago by Grargar)
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/known_scammers/post1594
Xardas722: I am sorry, I did not see that. http://www.gog.com/forum/general/known_scammers/post1594
RWarehall
Ja'loja!
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Posted January 02, 2015
low rated
There was more to it at the time. In one thread, when begging for a game he talked about not having enough money to buy it and the only thing he had to trade was WItcher 1. Then out of the blue, he had Arcanum to giveaway (which wasn't a trade option apparently). He pulled a lot of shady shit back then, but again, all this was prior to his admission and alleged subsequent reform.
Personally, this is why I just use a default clause of naughty or nice. If someone wins in my giveaways, I do a bit of research. It's on a sliding scale. Theoretically, better prizes, I accept fewer shenanigans. Weaker prizes, it takes very little to qualify, as little as one informative post. Although I think I've only re-rolled once (someone with low rep and the only searchable posts were "I'm in" giveaways or begging). And once I rescinded a gift when it was not redeemed for almost a week.
At some point, one can do enough to be considered reformed. Some people *coughWakalocough* would probably have to give away 100 GoG games in a hundred days to offset his misdeeds. At the end of the day, it's up to each giver what they choose to accept in terms of reform.
Personally, this is why I just use a default clause of naughty or nice. If someone wins in my giveaways, I do a bit of research. It's on a sliding scale. Theoretically, better prizes, I accept fewer shenanigans. Weaker prizes, it takes very little to qualify, as little as one informative post. Although I think I've only re-rolled once (someone with low rep and the only searchable posts were "I'm in" giveaways or begging). And once I rescinded a gift when it was not redeemed for almost a week.
At some point, one can do enough to be considered reformed. Some people *coughWakalocough* would probably have to give away 100 GoG games in a hundred days to offset his misdeeds. At the end of the day, it's up to each giver what they choose to accept in terms of reform.
Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
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yogsloth
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From United States
Posted January 06, 2015
BTW, finally uploaded my pics here now that the forum software is working again.
I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
Azrael360
Fuck China, Israel, Russia and Cancer.
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From Chile
Posted January 06, 2015
yogsloth: BTW, finally uploaded my pics here now that the forum software is working again.
I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
It's unfortunate what happened, but that was really fishy... The typical action of a very opportunist person :( I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
I wouldn't call him an scammer, but so far from what I've seen about him until today, AcidFlux acts (or tries to act) very friendly in public, but then he can do some acid things when he's not, like a double-faced person. It's a shame. It seems his problems in real life (as seen in his giveaway) were real and have affected his personality, or vice-versa...
Of course I don't wish him bad, but a little honesty wouldn't be bad, would be?
Post edited January 06, 2015 by Azrael360
Klumpen0815
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From Germany
Posted January 06, 2015
yogsloth: BTW, finally uploaded my pics here now that the forum software is working again.
I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
Azrael360: It's unfortunate what happened, but that was really fishy... The typical action of a very opportunist person :( I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
I wouldn't call him an scammer, but so far from what I've seen about him until today, AcidFlux acts (or tries to act) very friendly in public, but then he can do some acid things when he's not, like a double-faced person. It's a shame. It seems his problems in real life (as seen in his giveaway) were real and have affected his personality, or vice-versa...
Of course I don't wish him bad, but a little honesty wouldn't be bad, would be?
but then again, that's about how every druggie I ever met acted and since I live in a capitol I met a lot.
PS: Please keep PMs private if not for proof of scamming.
Post edited January 06, 2015 by Klumpen0815
ZFR
I love gold!
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From Ireland
Posted January 06, 2015
Azrael360: It's unfortunate what happened, but that was really fishy... The typical action of a very opportunist person :(
I wouldn't call him an scammer, but so far from what I've seen about him until today, AcidFlux acts (or tries to act) very friendly in public, but then he can do some acid things when he's not, like a double-faced person. It's a shame. It seems his problems in real life (as seen in his giveaway) were real and have affected his personality, or vice-versa...
Of course I don't wish him bad, but a little honesty wouldn't be bad, would be?
While I understand posting PM screenshots in order to show proof about a (potential) scammer, don't you think this is going a bit too far? I wouldn't call him an scammer, but so far from what I've seen about him until today, AcidFlux acts (or tries to act) very friendly in public, but then he can do some acid things when he's not, like a double-faced person. It's a shame. It seems his problems in real life (as seen in his giveaway) were real and have affected his personality, or vice-versa...
Of course I don't wish him bad, but a little honesty wouldn't be bad, would be?
I personally wouldn't want a PM I sent someone to be displayed for all to see. Of course it would be a different matter if it's just to show as evidence that I promised to give a game or allowed a gift to be traded. But this is personal correspondence. It's called private message for a reason.
EDIT: Thanks for removing them, Azrael :)
Post edited January 08, 2015 by ZFR
HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
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From Vatican City
Posted January 07, 2015
high rated
yogsloth: BTW, finally uploaded my pics here now that the forum software is working again.
I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
Just a side note - the name of the person that made the original purchase still shows both on the redeem page, and in the "A gift for you!' emails; it was never changed, so something must not be working properly for ne_zavarj if the gifter's name is not shown to them.I'm not really interested in pursuing this any further; just putting it here for the sake of completion.
Spinorial
Ninja who say Ni
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Posted January 07, 2015
If you don't call that scamming, you're passively approving of such behaviour. In an open market environment that might be fair practice, but on here we rely on knowing and trusting people. That's always been the primary vulnerability of our community and our rules need to reflect that. Honesty in trading or gifting should not be optional.
FYI, he also cheated ne_zavarj in their trade: those gems were worth a lot more than the games on sale.
FYI, he also cheated ne_zavarj in their trade: those gems were worth a lot more than the games on sale.
ZFR: While I understand posting PM screenshots in order to show proof about a (potential) scammer, don't you think this is going a bit too far?
I personally wouldn't want a PM I sent someone to be displayed for all to see. Of course it would be a different matter if it's just to show as evidence that I promised to give a game or allowed a gift to be traded. But this is personal correspondance. It's called private message for a reason.
I see nothing in those that isn't related to the incident in question.I personally wouldn't want a PM I sent someone to be displayed for all to see. Of course it would be a different matter if it's just to show as evidence that I promised to give a game or allowed a gift to be traded. But this is personal correspondance. It's called private message for a reason.
Post edited January 07, 2015 by Spinorial
madth3
TR2R!
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From Mexico
Posted January 07, 2015
On one side, that's painting things in black and white. I can see his behaviour as wrong but not consider him a scammer.
The working definition of scammer for me is a person who breaks a deal taking something out of you and not delivering his part. Is something that in real life would be equivalent to a small theft.
Trading gifts is tacky and not nice but is not a crime.
On the other side, he lied about the destination of the games and I can see dishonesty. I think I can see where you come from.
The working definition of scammer for me is a person who breaks a deal taking something out of you and not delivering his part. Is something that in real life would be equivalent to a small theft.
Trading gifts is tacky and not nice but is not a crime.
On the other side, he lied about the destination of the games and I can see dishonesty. I think I can see where you come from.
Post edited January 07, 2015 by madth3
ZFR
I love gold!
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From Ireland
Posted January 07, 2015
ZFR: While I understand posting PM screenshots in order to show proof about a (potential) scammer, don't you think this is going a bit too far?
I personally wouldn't want a PM I sent someone to be displayed for all to see. Of course it would be a different matter if it's just to show as evidence that I promised to give a game or allowed a gift to be traded. But this is personal correspondance. It's called private message for a reason.
Spinorial: I see nothing in those that isn't related to the incident in question. I personally wouldn't want a PM I sent someone to be displayed for all to see. Of course it would be a different matter if it's just to show as evidence that I promised to give a game or allowed a gift to be traded. But this is personal correspondance. It's called private message for a reason.
I wasn't referring to the one in yogsloth's post, which indeed are all related to the incident. I was mentioning the ones in Azrael's post, which contained some private correspondence, and were edited out later (thanks for understading, Azrael).
Post edited January 08, 2015 by ZFR
DampSquib
Soup Dragon.
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Posted January 07, 2015
madth3: On one side, that's painting things in black and white. I can see his behaviour as wrong but not consider him a scammer.
The working definition of scammer for me is a person who breaks a deal taking something out of you and not delivering his part. Is something that in real life would be equivalent to a small theft.
Trading gifts is tacky and not nice but is not a crime.
On the other side, he lied about the destination of the games and I can see dishonesty. I think I can see where you come from.
Scammer - deception or fraud...it's deception, duplicitous, call it what you will. The working definition of scammer for me is a person who breaks a deal taking something out of you and not delivering his part. Is something that in real life would be equivalent to a small theft.
Trading gifts is tacky and not nice but is not a crime.
On the other side, he lied about the destination of the games and I can see dishonesty. I think I can see where you come from.
It amounts to the same thing, you run the risk of getting caught up in semantics.