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jamyskis: If anything, after the election, I suspect that the conspiracy theories are only going to get worse, and possibly culminate in the advocacy of violence and terrorism in the name of "civil disobedience".
They'll get worse, they'll get even more stupid, but it'll be background radiation again. I believe that what happens in here, right now, is just an echo of Trump's present desperate flailing. That will cease once the USA has a new president, regardless of what president it is.

What we're left with ("left with", tehehehe) afterwards, in any case, is how Trump and his cohorts have shifted the normal/middle marker even further into right wing extremism territory. And that in a country that – from our perspective at least – only had far right wing parties to begin with. Those are different battles though and they're likely fought on different ground.

So I hope I can disagree with Breja here, though I am all too familiar with his train of thought; it did pass mine as well. But I still keep thinking that America doesn't "need" a Donald Trump to wake up; and I definitely think that Trump wouldn't be "a totally impotent evil". That's basically what the German people thought 80 years ago before they voted, and they were wrong. And the price for their certainly effective wakeup call was too damn high.

One of the debates that we'll likely keep having for quite some time is the censorship vs. trolling conundrum, as wonderfully exemplified right here just these last days.

When you approach a basically ludicrous topic (or rather: topics) such as this, there are two ways open to you. You either just insult, ridicule, disrupt, distract or even threaten, which means you're not really engaging the topic; or you can actually take a look at the arguments presented and make your case why you think they're ridiculous.

If you do the latter, which I much prefer, you may come to the conclusion that the discussion is inappropriate in the chosen surroundings. In this case, that it is against forum rules. Which hasn't got shit to do with "censorship", but only with the assumption that by their own standards, GOG would not want to host this discussion on their forum. It remains their choice after all.

When e.g. TinyE trolls a thread to oblivion, even if I absolutely disapprove of the topic, it's still a problematic approach that is, for a reason, forbidden in sensibly moderated forums. But if he's finding the discussion to be against forum rules, he's been grappling with the subject matter first – that's better, much better!

I believe we will all be taking a very good look at those standards in future years. We will create new, more precise definitions about unwanted proceedings on the internet. And give those names that don't have anything to do with fairytale creatures. It may mean that we'll explicitly discourage disruptions of the nature mentioned above, it may mean that universal and hyperbolic application of words like e.g. "harassment" or "censorship" may become increasingly less common as we work together to fill these words with actual meaning.

Eventually, I have the hope that precision of terminology has the power of cutting into conspiracy theory at least a bit. Though, of course, with contradictio in adiecto running wild from "Hillary the rapist" to "non-profit CETA", that hope is definitely somewhat naive. :|
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jamyskis: I honestly think it's about time to close this thread, and if rtcvb32 continues to spam the forum as he/she has been doing, to revoke posting privileges.
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Emob78: I would think twice about that. Rep numbers might not mean jack shit around here, but actual rep does. You fucking push to close this shit and we're going to have words. LOTS OF THEM.

They came for the conspiracy theorists, and no one helped them because we were not conspiracy theorists. Then they came for the asshole censor mongers on the forum, and no one helped them because we were not asshole censor mongers.

Ring a bell yet, jackass?
He claims that he doesn't like censorship -- when he's getting ready to advocate it. And claims to love democracy -- when he's getting ready to attack it. A pathological POS if ever there was one.
Yep, it's official. This forum is now the 4chan of PC gaming. Now I'm reminded why I stopped posting here.
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jamyskis: Yep, it's official. This forum is now the 4chan of PC gaming. Now I'm reminded why I stopped posting here.
In future, try a little harder to not forget.
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richlind33: He claims that he doesn't like censorship -- when he's getting ready to advocate it. And claims to love democracy -- when he's getting ready to attack it. A pathological POS if ever there was one.
And you claim to have a brain, yet demonstrate that to be wrong with almost every post you make. Yeah contradictions are everywhere, what u gonna do....
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I interrupt this thread for an important message from God, to tinyE. Listen up, bitch!
Post edited October 14, 2016 by richlind33
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Vainamoinen: When e.g. TinyE trolls a thread to oblivion
He does that a lot.

It's no wonder his rep is tumbling, no wonder at all.
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richlind33: I interrupt this thread for an important message from God, to tinyE. Listen up, *****!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIEYjNZgiU
I agree with the top rated comment: "Fuck this remix shit".

Actually want to listen to Bob Dylan? How about this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aD82dWOyYE
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Vainamoinen: What we're left with ("left with", tehehehe) afterwards, in any case, is how Trump and his cohorts have shifted the normal/middle marker even further into right wing extremism territory. And that in a country that – from our perspective at least – only had far right wing parties to begin with. Those are different battles though and they're likely fought on different ground.

So I hope I can disagree with Breja here, though I am all too familiar with his train of thought; it did pass mine as well. But I still keep thinking that America doesn't "need" a Donald Trump to wake up; and I definitely think that Trump wouldn't be "a totally impotent evil". That's basically what the German people thought 80 years ago before they voted, and they were wrong. And the price for their certainly effective wakeup call was too damn high.
What I find possibly more ridiculous than this thread, is that the saviour for these nutters is Donald fucking Trump. Shows that they will turn to anybody, absolutely anybody, if it somehow suits their agenda. As if that blowhard billionaire is going to do anything sensible for the "common man" ffs. A guy with a long history of giving a shit about anybody and anything not named Donald Trump.

As for input on the "will it get worse" topic, let's just recall that it's not that long ago the president was another nutter, George W. Bush. Not as far gone as Trump, perhaps, but pretty bad, basically a Christian fundamentalist, and look how that turned out. Wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, which we are now seeing one consequence of through ISIS and equally horrible groups. And these wars Obama have largely continued, with other wars throughout the region, and even Africa, often through secretive drone warfare, which even the CIA are lucid enough to acknowledge is a great recruiting tool for extremists, because it routinely kills innocents and spreads fear throughout the entire population. They're even using the staple tactic of 'regular' terrorist, the double-tap attack. First a bomb against whatever target they have chosen, and then another one when people come to help.

But I digress. If Trump were to somehow become the next president, he can, like Bush did, surround himself with some very despicable people, and these guys will essentially be running the show. As a consequence, it's not unlikely the US will slide further towards totalitarianism.

Unfortunately Hillary Clinton is the lesser evil in this race, which isn't much lesser at all. She's going to be even more aggressive with warfare than Obama has been (and he has been plenty of bad news for the world), and continue to give Wall Street a blank check, almost literally. The only glimmer of hope is that she's somewhat sane and rational, even if politically waaay to the right of centre, and may continue the halfway decent health care reforms that Obama initiated. Historically Democrats also try to include bigger sections of the populace, at least to a small degree, so the economy and tax regulation may not get further rigged in favour of the rich, at least not as bad as with the Republicans in charge (a billionaire Republican even).
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richlind33: I interrupt this thread for an important message from God, to tinyE. Listen up, *****!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIEYjNZgiU
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Vainamoinen: I agree with the top rated comment: "Fuck this remix shit".

Actually want to listen to Bob Dylan? How about this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aD82dWOyYE
Just for that, you get Ted Nugent. How about a sweet little ditty called My Love Is Like A Tire Iron? ;p
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Today: 14 Oct 2016 - 24 days
First hour - Google Trends, far more interest in Wikileaks, organizing to steal election, Votor fraud is real. RNC support for Trump: $0, but $42 Million for Rommey in 2012. Miss Teen, '<i>Trump was a gentleman</i>'. The dirt on Trump: He eats a lot; That's it!. Carlos Slim beind assault stories, distributor of ObamaPhone. Corporate Media is Hilliary's only weapon, which isn't doing journalism. Green party Jill Stein: Hillary will start a nuclear war. Wikileaks: <i>Wet works</i>, Podesta email makes assassination reference <span class="podkreslenie">days before</span> Scalia's death. Thailand Monarchy's new king, the girlfriend's poodle in charge of the air force? Exposing the election fraud and their attempt to steal.

Second hour - Make the case of voting fraud, Ohio & NY. Obama claimed executive privilege! Trump &amp; Polls Warned of election fraud weeks ago, Wikileaks Hillary to ban Semi-autos and Alt Right. Blasio's Voter ID program. : Predicted Podesta issues, laundering Russian money, fasism with the networks. [url=https://ctrag.nationbuilder.com/]Stop the steal.org, need evidence if stolen to challenge it, war as pretext to steal election, Summed up as 'dangerous' times, accusers stories already unraveling, Brock recruited the women, Stone & Alex pooled funds to keep woman's house from foreclosing, red-shirts at voting to show/prove voting preference, StopRape movement and breaking the media blackout, 1 Million Stickers (at cost), Debate: Trump's Liberated, Carlos Slim (owner of NYT) single biggest contributor to Clinton Foundation, 'Victory or death'. Headlines: Obama to weigh Syrian options (<i>start a war with Russia</i>), Russians war Nuclear war <span class="bold">IMMINENT</span>, recommends finding nearest bomb shelter. WW3 Obama could take major step towards today. 'They just don't get it'. Alex's response to NYT, media and NWO.

Third Hour - Raw Trump speeches. National movements. Farage (<i>Brexit</i>) coaching Trump. Dolly Kyle, Hillary the other woman (<i>book</i>); Knew Billy since 11, graduated in 64, dated Bill, wrote book last year, subpoena as witness/talker, sex addict, was drugged/raped at 16, Bill a chameleon, in 74 says Hillary smells bad, Bill said 'I don't want to be seen with a loser', #1 sticker 'proprietary reasons', Hillary can't face truth, her psychology, she hates everyone, Projection 101, Mob & delivering warnings/examples, The plantation mentality, 'Hillary Cannot win the election only steal'. Media Magic making stories disappear, Court case against Bill in 1998, Prevotes for Hillary, auctioning off ballet boxes, StopRape.

Fourth Hour - Dolly: 'Hillary is a Terrorist; A Terrorist achieves political aims through threats violence and intimidation', 'the scope is bigger and worse'. A [url=http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Conspiracy]conspiracy[/url] is basically two (or more) people meeting/working in secret to scam someone. 'She has an empty resume', Ch 46 'The Big problem' a list of the scandals, Projection; 'If Hillary says something bad about someone it's about herself and if she says she accomplished something she's lying', She's incompetent and hates people. Tape (coming out?) of Hillary cussing out and being racist. The Clintons are trying to turn the US into a third world country 'look at Haiti', Ch 50 'Clinton Truth Suppression Techniques' 17 of them, Hillary's health (from secret service) and her addiction (to power/money), Chelsae's $10Mil condo, medical room, body double. Votor fraud is real, 18 million fraudulent registrations on the books (1 in 8!). Hillary meeting in secret to plot destruction of US sovereignty, Get ready for severe fall in stock market, Canada/Local news StopRape, True Journalism not here today. 'Virginia a swing state with election fraud', Executive orders: Space weather events - 4.e.ii 'coordinate response and recovery from the effects of space weather events on critical infrastructure and the broader community' sounds like Martial law. 'Hillary 4 prison' hacked road sign. Ohio 13 Blast-proof boxes 'Obama isn't leaving', 19th final debate (13 hours). 'Thank you Assange, there are so many freaking wikileaks we can't get to them all'.

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tinyE: .
You Arabs, always logging flight paths.
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Kleetus: You Arabs, always logging flight paths.
He couldn't stay out of this thread if his life depended on it. lol