Ariod: Of course I'm always happy to see people trying to find the truth on things, especially it cases where it is obscured by people in powerful positions. But I've just been around too long, and trying to always understand the truth myself, to think there is any truth to be found from a source like Infowars.

Ariod: Agreed - I hear you on that, it is normally a lost cause. Most of the time when I come across stuff like this it's more just like a palm-to-forehead, "you gotta be kidding me" moment, and then I move on. But yeah, every once in a while I just can't help myself...

Of course I'm always happy to see people trying to find the truth on things, especially it cases where it is obscured by people in powerful positions. But I've just been around too long, and trying to always understand the truth myself, to think there is any truth to be found from a source like Infowars.

DaCostaBR: I understand your feeling. Personally I find conspiracy theories to be hilarious, which is why I started this discussion just having a laugh, but sometimes I see it go a bit further, and when it starts being actively prejudicial to people, or someone uses made up conspiracy theories to attack others, or to drive political policy, it stops being funny.

I do agree that we'll never know everything, but my personal rule is: never attribute to malice what can be just as easily blamed on incompetence...

richlind33: That statement is incompatible with scientific methodology. If there is insufficient evidence to make a valid conclusion then you do not make one.

noncompliantgame: Thanks man. Glad I could help. I do what I can. I post on a few forums, try to implant I few seed thoughts in people I know, people I meet, random strangers even. I’d almost forgotten all about those gamergate thread posts. I’ve moved on a somewhat since then. I’m a bit more aware of (((who))), amongst many others of course - they couldn’t do it without a lot of help, is behind at least some of the mess we’re all forced to live in today.

And I’m still an advocate for freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of association (something we definitely don’t have today - example: the baker in the U.S. who was sued because he didn’t want to bake a wedding cake for a gay “marriage”) and many other freedoms, ethics, principles and values myself and growing numbers of people around the world hold dear. Such as Family and the whole idea of the sacredness of the family, my tribe (those I’m descended from), and by extension of that my people (and by that I do mean my “race” which is European/White/Caucasian - ooh I know we can’t have that) and the rights of every “race”, every group of people to live peacefully, prosperously and autonomously as they choose.

That means if you want to mix it up with people of different groups other than your own in large cosmopolitan cites, as I have done for a part of my life that’s great. But if you want to live in a community or nation that is practically all of one people, be that African, Asian, European, Middle Eastern or any of the ethnic sub-groups within or besides those very broad categories, we the people need to have the right to do that - it’s vital to the survival of the entire human race!

You see what these haters, harassers, bullies and all the other government and corporate sponsered clowns don’t get is, and I know eyes are going to be rolling and heads shaking. What the hater -the politically correct sjw - doesn’t get is ultimately it’s about love - that’s right, like someone said, the stupid f*cking hippies were right, it’s about love. Love is not all you need but love is the one thing almost everyone needs.

By Love I mean universal love, including love for oneself - I don’t mean dysfunctional narcissism promoted in the (((corporate global media))) today - I mean self-respect, self-esteem. The kind of self-esteem and respect that inspires you to do what’s right for yourself, be kind to people, to love, care about those around you - your family and/or your close friends - inspires you in your own small way towards improving your world. It’s about love of where you come from - the land you come from, your ancestry - your flesh and blood. Which means it’s also about love of your people or what many today call “race”. It’s about love of all people, of all mankind (ooh, I know that’s gone triggered a few ninnies!).

And this is where we hit a snag, because as I’m sure many of you are aware it is OK for most groups to have pride and express love for whatever group people feel they are a part of, a particular “race” if you like, except one group and who is that? Well, it’s that terror of the universe that is responsible for all the evils of the world, at least according to (((some folks))), the white man, the European. And because that’s the flesh, blood, skin, muscle, nerves, bones and DNA my soul was born to this world in, that will be the people, aside of course from my immediate family and relatives and a very small cirlce of friends, I prioritise.

I love and care about all peoples, all humanity, all “races” - as everyone should. But ultimately you have to look after your own first and I won’t back down no matter how many (((nazi))) trolls and bullies come after me and spout vile hatred. I will always stand in integrity, peace and love, speak truth to power, and do what I believe to be right.

DaCostaBR: On the contrary, the scientific method is predicated upon creating hypotheses which may then be tested.

Just like when you hear hooves you should think horses and not zebras, applying Occam's Razor to human beings' behaviour tells me that incompetence is much more prevalent than malice, and as such should be the first hypothesis taken.

richlind33: There's nothing contrary about what you're saying, because it has nothing to do with what I said.

Fine, make and test some hypotheses, but if you form conclusions that lack a factual basis, you have deviated from scientific methodology, and are doing the very same thing you are accusing others of.