The only legible parts of your gibberish are the insensible insinuations. "So you think" that the Syrian people should all have just gone back to business as usual after March 6th, 2011? "You realize" how Bashar Al-Asshat started this whole thing? "You realize" that the religious extremism of the Daesch and several other factions could only have bred in the oppressive and violent climate that Asshat has personally created? "You realize" that the dictator's war against his own people (and, of course, the Kurds) will not end when the country is under his control again?

No? Well then, I can put it in terms you definitely understand. Because "you realize" that we will keep all refugees with us by law as long as Asshat remains on his throne. Which is the only good thing, really. No way the German government is declaring Syria a secure state with Asshat in the lead. Not with that track record. :)

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Gibberish and insensible insinuations, now I know again why I ignore you most of the time.

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But when insults are thrown I guess it is time to go back to 1.

Well to be honest, neither you nor I can prove that what anybody is saying or writing about what is happening on the ground in Syria is true. My point is that in war both sides engage in propaganda for obvious reasons. In fact we can' prove or fact check almost nothing, since we always use sources "which we trust" to prove our claim or perspective.

I may have another opinion about the civil war in Syria based on my sources (although I guess you can no longer call it a civil war) than you, but we can still point out the news and reports we find. And perhaps you change my viewpoint or I change yours a bit. Without attacking each other with insults.

And the fact that millions died in the middle east in the last 15 years to "bring peace, democracy, freddom and fight terror" which in every case brought only ashes and more deaths and bloodshed after the end of each war makes me suspicious. As do the books I read about dictaitorships in South America, the books I read about nuclear weapons and the cold war, it just seems like a playbook which is used to achieve goals. Back then the backed dictators where valiant fighters against the threat of the USSR and evil socialist/communist groups or countries on the "fringe" of being swallowed by the communists. Now the dictators are suddenly evils which stand in the way of freedom and democracy(which they are, no discussion about that, but who put them into placein the first place).

Sorry, but your understanding of the conflict seems pretty childish to me. It's not the Syrian people against Assad's regime...no doubt Assad runs a brutal dictatorship, but it's clear that a very significant part of Syria's population has backed the regime throughout the conflict...they may have no great love for Assad, but regard the alternatives as worse. Syria's minorities are afraid, probably with very good reason, that they'll be exterminated or expelled if an illiberal Sunni majority gets to power, and even quite a few Sunnis seem to regard Assad's regime as the lesser evil. The opposition has been dominated by Islamists for years. And it was always likely to play out that way, given Syria's ethno-religious fault lines (not a new problem...one only has to remember how the Muslim brothers rebelled against the elder Assad and his Alawite-dominated regime and were crushed in Hama in '82) and the massive support for hardline groups from Saudi-Arabia, the Gulf states and Turkey.
It's wishful thinking that if only the West had acted differently there would now be liberal democrats in power in Damascus, forging a tolerant, multi-religious democracy. There are no good solutions for Syria, and pretending this is just about some evil dictator massacring his own people is just silly.

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Indeed, this isn't about some Evil Dictator (tm)

I'd recommend Adam Curtis' latest BBC documentary which talks a lot about the Syrian dictators (and the US) as it explains the situation quite well up to the year 2000-ish, as well as RFK Jr's article on Syria which takes on the current situation.

http://www.ecowatch.com/syria-another-pipeline-war-1882180532.html

It's just not about Evil Dictators. Never was.

Did you even read what you replied with? So, let me get this straight...the Syrian Army supposedly bombed that hospital, yet it's open for business 2 weeks later? And in the very article cited, the building across the street was hit (and the hospital was treating the victims) and then an adjunct "a few buildings down" from the hospital was hit, but again not the hospital itself...despite Snopes claiming otherwise...

When I see a report that the Syrian Army bombed a hospital, I get the idea the hospital was actually bombed and destroyed, not that a couple of nearby buildings were hit and there was maybe a bit of collateral damage. This actually supports her contention that satellite imaging showed no damage to the hospital after the bombing. It's not even clear whether the hospital ever shut down depending on which source one looks at, that ranges from, it didn't to it couldn't even possibly re-open because it was completely destroyed (which we know is untrue).

Do you not see how someone might see the MSM report on that bombing as a little suspect under those circumstances? Note how Snopes didn't piece that together...and I pulled that strictly from their quotes and links...

I'm not even sure why Snopes talks about the election as if that part is somehow false too given that they seem to agree that 88.7% voted for Assad but that somehow that only 73% of people voting makes all the difference? Didn't we just have an election where only half the people voted? And isn't 88.7% times 73% almost 65%?

Given that Snopes chose to be quite one-sided with their claims even going so far as to compare this to some Sandy Hook claim, I'm not sure Snopes is quite the reliable source you claim it to be. Their coverage seems far from neutral on this issue...

And here are the quotes from "Doctors Without Borders" reports which they linked...
“The attack on Al Quds hospital has destroyed one of the last remaining places in Aleppo in which you could still find humanity."

"the hospital was destroyed by at least one airstrike which directly hit the building, reducing it to rubble."

Does this sound like a hospital that is back in business two weeks later per Snopes? Or still treating victims from the building next door? Or more exaggeration? Doesn't this prove the claims that the MSM misreported the facts?

It appears to me that Snopes used a misreported news story to debunk the claims of misreported news...

Where's the recommended videos and audio podcast?

I'm starting to think your enthusiasm is waning?

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Yeah guys. This argumentative pattern hasn't started to make sense to anyone in the meantime.

No one has said things would be all peachy with Assad gone. Helping him stay in power, however, is what crazy power-hungry imperialist dictators do, not people interested in peace.

So says you with no evidence and no explanation of who or what fills in the vacuum except the "leap of faith" that whatever replaces Assad will necessarily be better. So apparently in your mind, America and Europe are the ones who should decide which leaders of which countries "deserve" to stay in power and to enforce change when they disagree.

Furthermore, seeing as you posted this 5 hours after Atlantico's post, it seems to me that since you have no adequate response to his post (or the rest of the content of the above clipped posts), you are just choosing to ignore them.

That is the real problem with your argumentative "style". You are light in facts, make grand assumptions and support them with weak claims based on advocacy groups such as Amnesty International having a country on a list for 16 years, claiming that makes him undeniably the worst person ever. And when all that fails, you either clip apart people's arguments down to nonsense or call them names like conspiracy theorists or accuse them of wearing tinfoil hats.

And then you wonder why people do not believe you are debating in good faith...

But we don't have to worry, because in a month Vain will be telling us how we ignored his great posts fully explaining everything, and we are the ones just too stupid to get it.

Probably what everyone thought before attacking Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein.

Again I'd like to point out how thought out posts seem to get "low rated" while Vain's shit posts devoid of useful content are untouched. Pretty clear which group of people are doing the "low rating"...

So what's your solution? Remove Assad from power by military force (which would mean risking war with Russia btw) and just hope for the best? Because that worked out so well in Libya? If the rebels won, you can be sure there'd be lots of massacres and it could well mean the end for Syria's minorities, like it did in Iraq after Saddam was deposed (there are communities like the Mandaeans that have lived in Iraq for 2000 years, had to leave Iraq because of the Islamist violence after 2003, and will probably cease to exist as identifiable communities...do you care about that? Do you even know about it? Do you want to see that repeated in Syria?). And if the west intervened on the side of the rebels, we would own those massacres, and that would be a greater guilt by far than non-intervention.