Vainamoinen: I understand well that you don't see it that way, but that is some sicko shit.
So it's "sicko shit" that a website... gives you the 100% voluntary option to enable a profile which has absolutely zero personal or incriminating info on it and matches what virtually every other gaming venue offers with absolutely zero issues whatsoever as a result.
And you want me to take you seriously when you say that. :/ You need to consider the entire web sicko, by that metric, at which point you need to consider if you're truly approaching this in a productive manner.
Vainamoinen: You should definitely not just make the enablers responsible, the fucking Zuckerbergs and the fucking Newells, the fucking Nadellas and the fucking Cooks,
..and literally the entire net, since the entire net was designed from Day One to be a place to share data. Heck, Sir Tim even wanted MORE data to be shared, since his vision was originally a Semantic Data driven web where everyone would have a Personal Internet Identifier full of whatever data they wanted to share.
In order to implement the sort of bulletproof privacy you folks want we'd basically have to tear down the web and rebuild both its infrastructure and its economic systems from the bottom up. And along the way we'd probably lose a lot of the ability for anyone to add to the web since we'd by design have to kill most of the existing openness.
I honestly don't know if that's even possible, let alone if what we gained in terms of privacy would be worth what we lost in terms of the agnostic ability for anyone regardless of station to put their thoughts out there.
richlind33: You seem to think there's something wrong with wanting to buck the herd and get away from this kind of crap
On the contrary, I can certainly understand the desire.
I just don't think it's possible at this point. Not without cutting yourself off entirely from what is increasingly an important part of the sociopolitical landscape. Not without having to rebuild the web from scratch. Not without a lot of things that basically involve trying to upend several decades of progression both in technology and society.
This isn't a "throw a few regs on FB and kill every single gaming platforms' profiles" measure. This is
big. Bigger than me, certainly, which is why I tend to take a pragmatic approach and evaluate each scenario to see if the data I share is more or less important than what I get in return for sharing it, since I realize that turning off the firehose not only isn't going to happen any time soon but may not even be realistically possible.
I don't know if we can put the genie back in the bottle. We CAN try to steer the genie and ask for better wishes, but that requires sane and rational discussion, not hysteria and hyperbole.
richlind33: That's pitiful, my friend. Utterly and wholly pitiful. o.O
I'm genuinely sorry you find anyone who has different needs from you pitiful. Or that you find someone who has an educated view of how the internet works, and thus takes a pragmatic priority-based view of how to approach things, to be pitiful.
Honestly, if we're going to sink to this discourse level, then what I find pitiful is people being so hysterical and hyperbolic about all this. Like I said in the other thread, I now have to explain to my Steam friends how people are screaming bloody murder because GOG implemented a feature many people asked for that Steam users have had all this time with zero issues. I don't look forward to it.
I feel irritated that I apparently can't get people to understand that you should approach things with sanity and rationality, not hysteria and hyperbole. And that the more serious an issue, that actually just means the more sane and rationally you should approach it.