Lifthrasil: Depends on what exactly they did. I have kind of forgiven GOG their attempts at screwing their customers. Not forgotten, but forgiven enough to continue shopping here. If they ever introduce DRM for single player, I won't forgive them.

And in the case of Steam, I haven't forgiven them yet that they exist. That is inexcusable! ;-)

Timboli: At the end of the day it is about freedom of choice, and yours no doubt, is to use Steam in the manner you have said. My view, is to not encourage or give license to something like Steam. It sets a bad example or precedent for where things could get even worse.

Timboli: At the end of the day it is about freedom of choice, and yours no doubt, is to use Steam in the manner you have said. My view, is to not encourage or give license to something like Steam. It sets a bad example or precedent for where things could get even worse.

OldOldGamer: I don't understand this internet problem.

You have bandwidth to download 45GB games, but you don't have enough bandwidth to let steam client to check online you DRM.

Socratatus: "I don`t see what the problem is?"

Oh how often I have seen this comment. I have seen it over and over again. either these people are truly naive, selfish, innocently dumb or working for Steam, etc- I have spent hours arguing and trying to show such people reason, I don`t bother any more. They don`t or won`t get it.

dtgreene: (Also, no game should *ever* be this big of a download; how are they using so much space?)

DCT: it's less of a boycott for me and more of I can't be bothered to go through this mountain of crap to try and find a possibly decent game.

dudalb: TO be honest, you have that problem at GOG also....

OldOldGamer: I don't understand this internet problem.

You have bandwidth to download 45GB games, but you don't have enough bandwidth to let steam client to check online you DRM.

The only argument I can understand are forced huge updates.

Aside this: not having "access" to your wife is no DAMN close to not be able to play a game.

If you have a really broken line, you still have to go trough the pain of downloading the game from GOG.

Just to clarify: I buy most of my games here on GOG, because I prefer DRM free.
But has become much less of an issue lately.

Socratatus: I`ve seen GOG do some slightly dodgy stuff and do worry how long it`ll be before they are the same. So far they are forgiven.

Socratatus: "I don`t see what the problem is?"

Oh how often I have seen this comment. I have seen it over and over again. either these people are truly naive, selfish, innocently dumb or working for Steam, etc- I have spent hours arguing and trying to show such people reason, I don`t bother any more. They don`t or won`t get it.

Socratatus: This, always this, when in doubt.

If they don`t care for the customer then the customer will indeed go elsewhere. You won`t bake a cake for me the way I want it, I`ll go somewhere that will. Market forces will do the rest, not the State.

mechmouse: Its not all about dodgy net access, while that is a huge issue for some, its about buying a house or car and giving someone else the keys.

OldOldGamer: We do this all the time.
It's just we are game nerds and we suffer when we do with videogames.

When I moved in UK I was shocked by the fact that people have this "car renting" contracts.
They pay £ 4~15K for three years, and give the car back to the dealer, to buy a new car and start again the process.
Paying for something that is not yours.

This is so much widespread that I couldn't believe, nor accept, such a money wasting.

OldOldGamer: I don't understand this internet problem.

You have bandwidth to download 45GB games, but you don't have enough bandwidth to let steam client to check online you DRM.

The only argument I can understand are forced huge updates.

Aside this: not having "access" to your wife is no DAMN close to not be able to play a game.

If you have a really broken line, you still have to go trough the pain of downloading the game from GOG.

Timboli: Clearly you do not have Internet or Steam Client issues. But thousands do. And why should one have to have that or the risk of it, as part of a bargain of buying a game?

You can pick and choose when, where and how to download games. You don't have that luxury with the Steam client.
Perhaps you share your web connection with someone or even a whole apartment building, and so you have a window only for downloading, then need to use it offline. There are many scenarios, some in the previous postings of others, that illustrate things exactly. With GOG games, once you have downloaded, there is no more need for the web, unless using multiplayer. Perhaps you share a PC, and need to play your games on another offline one. Why should one be limited with options?

Ok, a WIFE and a GAME don't compare, but the fact that there are similarities at all in the two situations, should be really concerning. What I said was to make one think, about what is similar and what isn't.

Sometimes updates, whether HUGE or not can be forced upon you, and you may prefer a prior version. As I don't work from GOG like many work from it or Steam, but rather keep my own backup of games on HDD, then updates need never bother me at all. When I do get an update, it never replaces the earlier versions, it is in addition to them.

At the end of the day it is about freedom of choice, and yours no doubt, is to use Steam in the manner you have said. My view, is to not encourage or give license to something like Steam. It sets a bad example or precedent for where things could get even worse.

mechmouse: If people are happy with Steam, then they can choose to use it. Likewise choosing not to use Steam shouldn't excluded you from the vast majority of games.

GR00T: I got Gears of War 4 as a bonus code with a video card. It was a 76 GB download.

*edit* Corrected the game number