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morolf: Why, because there are so many "extremists" posting here?
Wrong. No one posting here supported ISIL, ergo either your word "extremists" is misplaced, or you don't know its meaning and you are confused, calling everything in sight with opposite opinion(s), that word (which is the norm, inside certain ideological/political spheres). Supporting law, order and honored alliances, especially when those fight against real extremists, is by no means, extremist. Unless you prefer this situation to remain as is for a very long time. Which is sad.

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DubConqueror: The proper solution would be this post:

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Titanium: Make a peace plan all sides can agree to and convince them to agree to it.
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DubConqueror:
Yeah. good luck making Bagdadi accept the peace plan and even go along with it. I love children's innocence, it is the only beautiful thing left in this world anymore, but unfortunately, rarely things can work that way. Or the rebels' leaders, who had been trained, funded and even coordinated, by USA sources, before.

Hopefully, Trump will cut the balls of those who supported the rebels in Syria, thinking they could impose and exert (diplomatic) power, in a completely foreign land, by messing it up, worst of all. But that is no strange or isolated case. Old bill clinton, messed up many places and in a much more dangerous + physical sense, plus more direct involvement. Obama kept everything in the dark and not even all, shameful actions, accidentally leaked in tiny fragments, hints and bits, remaining secret and cover-ups. I have to give it to the guy; he worked fast, like a clockwork ninja. Guy was born an actor, he would rule the stage just masterfully! Giving fake, moving speeches about rights, humanity, all while ordering his european assets and underlings to keep the pressure up and intensify it against Russia, while giving money and weapons, plus media propaganda, for the anti-Assad regime! And while having NATO harass the Russians and the Chinese. That latest CIA asspull, though, wasn't half bad, either. Could easily make a living as an inventor, too!
Post edited December 14, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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ciomalau: my father is armenian, mother romanian - but i'm like neither of them. i'm different, i'm original
Armorian?

You look like an arab though, with your dark hair and small brown eyes.
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morolf: Why, because there are so many "extremists" posting here?
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Wrong. No one posting here supported ISIL, ergo either your word "extremists" is misplaced, or you don't know its meaning and you are confused, calling everything in sight with opposite opinion(s), that word (which is the norm, inside certain ideological/political spheres). Supporting law, order and honored alliances, especially when those fight against real extremists, is by no means, extremist. Unless you prefer this situation to remain as is for a very long time. Which is sad.
You've misunderstood me...I'm probably an "extremist" as well :-)
While I have no illusions that Assad runs a dictatorship that is in some ways rather unpleasant, I certainly regard his regime as the lesser evil in the Syrian civil war...the opposition is dominated by Islamists who would be a lot worse than Assad if they came to power in Syria; it would probably mean the end for Syria's minorities ("Alawites under the ground, Christians to Lebanon" is their slogan iirc).
So I regard the reconquest of Aleppo as a somewhat positive event (as you do if I understand correctly).
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Post edited December 14, 2016 by Fairfox
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DubConqueror: I want to stop the war in Syria.

But how do I do it?
Answer.
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Fairfox: Still procreate.
Liek a lot.
if you want a brother or sister it's no problem with me :P
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Lifthrasil: No humanitarian acceptable way to end the conflict there permanently. The only permanent solution would be ... well, very permanent.

Do you remember the X-Files episode where Mulder wishes for 'Peace on Earth' from a Djinn? Kind of like that.
I was never a X-Files fan, but I heard about this episode and even if I didn't, i would get the meaning from the context. And I agree completely, but I refuse to be depressed by it.
We are flawed, short-living creatures living in this imperfect universe. As a result, there are no flawless, permanent, perfect solution to our serious problems. Perhaps we (as humankind) could spare ourselves some very nasty social experiments and a lot of disappointment if we focus more on "just so-so" and middle-term, but working solutions.
Because you nailed it: there are ways to (for example) end the war in Syria, some of them could even possibly work, but they are unacceptable by the high moral standards we imposed on ourselves. Which incidentally left so much space open for people with the lowest moral standards. So it goes.
Thread OP, you are lucky! Like a lucky charm!

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-12-15/syrian-president-celebrates-historic-defeat-of-east-aleppo-rebels/

Keep your fingers crossed, all goes well and war is all over, at least over there, COUGHHH!
Post edited December 16, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Thread OP, you are lucky! Like a lucky charm!

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-12-15/syrian-president-celebrates-historic-defeat-of-east-aleppo-rebels/

Keep your fingers crossed, all goes well and war is all over, at least over there, COUGHHH!
IS has captured Palmyra again though.
It seems that major fighting might eventually end in the coming months and years...but the war will then enter a new phase in which the opposition adopts guerilla tactics. So no real peace. Might well be there is no good solution for a multiethnic, multireligious powder keg like Syria.
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morolf: multiethnic, multireligious powder keg
Exactly what is Europe becoming... Has become already that, scratch that... COUGHHH!
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morolf: multiethnic, multireligious powder keg
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Exactly what is Europe becoming... Has become already that, scratch that... COUGHHH!
I kind of agree, it's sad how foolish Europeans are when there's so much evidence for the trouble diversity (or at least certain kinds of diversity) causes.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-12-15/syrian-president-celebrates-historic-defeat-of-east-aleppo-rebels/

Keep your fingers crossed, all goes well and war is all over, at least over there, COUGHHH!
Only if they can't keep recruiting and getting more rebels and supplying them.

We'll have to see. Since Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the US are supplying the rebels, although who and how this unfolds come the 20th I don't know.

Still if Aleppo is in better condition then great. But I doubt they are fully liberated.
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morolf: I kind of agree, it's sad how foolish Europeans are when there's so much evidence for the trouble diversity (or at least certain kinds of diversity) causes.
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richlind33: Multiculturalism = social engineering.

Eliminate the social engineers, problem solved.
How do you want to "eliminate" people in favour of multiculturalism? I mean I don't like them either, but fantasies about mass violence, violent uprisings etc. aren't really constructive either.
It's a horrible situation without any easy or good solutions...I really dread the coming decades.
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morolf: How do you want to "eliminate" people in favour of multiculturalism? I mean I don't like them either, but fantasies about mass violence, violent uprisings etc. aren't really constructive either.
It's a horrible situation without any easy or good solutions...I really dread the coming decades.
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richlind33: The social engineers are Zionist Jews -- the same ones that are fomenting the chaos and civil war in the Middle East that has created the refugee crisis.
I don't find that really convincing, and the implications of your wish to "eliminate" people somewhat extreme, to put it mildly...but I guess I should stop now before this turns into another flame war.