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mike_cesara: Spiders from Mars are just one possibility, might be a war, natural disaster.. If something may go worng it will at some point. With my backed up installers I can play game on any of my hardware, even those never connected to any network. How can steam possibly compete with that? I've herad already I can plug internet just for this one time, install the game and go offline, but what if I don't wnat to go online with that machine? Taht's not my problem, I pay for playing games, not ollydgb to make it work..
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neurasthenya: In the case of natural disasters shutting down the company, GOG also wouldn't have any obligation with us. And again, on GOG the installers are clearly an advantage, not arguments here, but still, if I have my downloaded Steam library nothing can stop me fiddling with the bloody thing. And again, the ones that should be nagged about that, are the publishers that insist on this backwards idea of DRM.

"That's not my problem, I pay for playing games, not obliged to make it work.."
True, but we are on PC, you know how things can be sometimes. :))
In case of GoG I don't need any third party tools nor wasting my time to play my games.
The best way is voting with wallet I believe, what basically means no drm for me : )
And yes, I know how things can be sometimes. It was ridiculous I had to fix some games to make them playable (ie, Deus Ex: HR, about 70 crashes with steam, 0 crashes without steam..)
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mike_cesara: In case of GoG I don't need any third party tools nor wasting my time to play my games.
Hummmm... that may varies, lot's of problems are reported on the game specific forums. Myself had one that did my head in big time.
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mike_cesara: And yes, I know how things can be sometimes. It was ridiculous I had to fix some games to make them playable (ie, Deus Ex: HR, about 70 crashes with steam, 0 crashes without steam..)
I know that feeling, but still, I find it to be a problem of curation. I dislike Steam, I really do (still use it dailly though), but I still maintain that the problem lies in the people selling it there (as in the "AAA" industry).
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mike_cesara: The best way is voting with wallet I believe, what basically means no drm for me : )
And that could bring us to the topic of the thread haha.

If the DRM-free and GOG pro consumer policies are what matter, why all the fuss about regional pricing?
You are supporting DRM free or not. :o)
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mike_cesara: In case of GoG I don't need any third party tools nor wasting my time to play my games.
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neurasthenya: Hummmm... that may varies, lot's of problems are reported on the game specific forums. Myself had one that did my head in big time.
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mike_cesara: And yes, I know how things can be sometimes. It was ridiculous I had to fix some games to make them playable (ie, Deus Ex: HR, about 70 crashes with steam, 0 crashes without steam..)
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neurasthenya: I know that feeling, but still, I find it to be a problem of curation. I dislike Steam, I really do (still use it dailly though), but I still maintain that the problem lies in the people selling it there (as in the "AAA" industry).
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mike_cesara: The best way is voting with wallet I believe, what basically means no drm for me : )
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neurasthenya: And that could bring us to the topic of the thread haha.

If the DRM-free and GOG pro consumer policies are what matter, why all the fuss about regional pricing?
You are supporting DRM free or not. :o)
The only game IGoG have problem with is The Witcher 3, won't run under linux..
Of course there are some games I would like to see here but I can understand if I am not the customer publishers are looking for, there is still more than enough games here : )
Steam wouldn't be that bad if not all those restrictions, it has great linux games base for example. But how I can play 18 years old game on my netbook with only 1GB RAM when most of it takes steam..
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mike_cesara: The only game IGoG have problem with is The Witcher 3, won't run under linux..
And I don't see (and I shouldn't) no one blaming GOG (the store) for that. Again, it's all up to the devs/publishers to offer something to consumers, besides the policies of the stores. After all, lot's of companies don't "play ball" with GOG policies, and we should nag them about it.
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mike_cesara: Of course there are some games I would like to see here but I can understand if I am not the customer publishers are looking for, there is still more than enough games here : )
Oh, I agree with this, the thing that get people rilled up is them don't quitting with the whole "Steam is eeeevil!".
It feels like constantly nagging about something that you are not even supposed to like in the first place.
The thing shouldn't be "GOG vs Steam" per say, the rabbit hole of PC gaming and DRM goes much, much further than this petty "fight".
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mike_cesara: Steam wouldn't be that bad if not all those restrictions, it has great linux games base for example. But how I can play 18 years old game on my netbook with only 1GB RAM when most of it takes steam..
C'mon don't do that to me... I know, old games, dosbox and all that but c'mon this is too much. xD
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mike_cesara: The only game IGoG have problem with is The Witcher 3, won't run under linux..
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neurasthenya: And I don't see (and I shouldn't) no one blaming GOG (the store) for that. Again, it's all up to the devs/publishers to offer something to consumers, besides the policies of the stores. After all, lot's of companies don't "play ball" with GOG policies, and we should nag them about it.
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mike_cesara: Of course there are some games I would like to see here but I can understand if I am not the customer publishers are looking for, there is still more than enough games here : )
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neurasthenya: Oh, I agree with this, the thing that get people rilled up is them don't quitting with the whole "Steam is eeeevil!".
It feels like constantly nagging about something that you are not even supposed to like in the first place.
The thing shouldn't be "GOG vs Steam" per say, the rabbit hole of PC gaming and DRM goes much, much further than this petty "fight".
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mike_cesara: Steam wouldn't be that bad if not all those restrictions, it has great linux games base for example. But how I can play 18 years old game on my netbook with only 1GB RAM when most of it takes steam..
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neurasthenya: C'mon don't do that to me... I know, old games, dosbox and all that but c'mon this is too much. xD
Of course no one should blame GoG for direct3D The Witcher 3 only. There are other games however, with native linux ports we don't have here..
Steam is just a business and like any other has to make a money, and it does pretty well it seems. It also work great for many if not most gamers but not for everyone of course : )
Well, I'm using my ancient netbook on daily basis, sometimes even : ) Of course most of time I'm on [url=https://www.gog.com/upload/forum/2016/05/67554d48705e736fd8292594d31e45b60630f290.jpg]my main laptop.
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mike_cesara:
Found a great video relevant to our discussion. I think you will like (provided that you haven't watched it already)
:)
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GamingRant: ...what is ultimately the same product. ... Any idea what's up with this?
I would argue that including DRM or leaving it out makes a difference in the product, but you are right. In Canada GOG is always a bit worse than Steam. It's because of regional pricing. Either Steam exceptionally loves Canada or GOG exceptionally hates Canada. One of the both.

For people from Canada I can understand that they feel like buying on Steam may give them the better deal. For people outside of Canada like me, I actually don't care much how the prices in Canada are as long as the prices here are even higher.

I heard lately the UK gets the shitty end of the stick, price wise. Regional pricing is not known for being very fair.
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mike_cesara:
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neurasthenya: Found a great video relevant to our discussion. I think you will like (provided that you haven't watched it already)
:)
Aren't we all hostages of services like steam, origin? ; p Thanks for the link! Good video but nothing new really : )