I already did, tho.

1. I pointed out your posts(the one I pointed out, among others).

2. I pointed out how odd it was that NMillar dropped their vote on Catte, when there were only 2 votes on Catte at that time.

(Sidenote: Thanks for the comment in post 166 about taking my advice to heart)
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Musings for you and all other players: ALSO, oddly enough, NMillar then voted for me a bit later on.

Plus Catte never once responded about my vote on them.....make of that what you will, but to me it seems out of place.

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@ZFR-Post 156 and this line from it: "or, and I shudder to say it, add something like "this is not a vote" after the name."

Yay, my thing that I started got a mention. :D

Sorry, I guess it's my lurking nature lol.
I tend to partecipate only if there's something I really need to say (or if I'm tagged).

Maybe it's just me being a newbie, but I can't perceive your actions as pro-town.
Random accusations in D1 will just make everyone suspicious of anything. It won't help townies.
IMO you did so because:
-1 you just wanted to "spice up" things in D1 for fun, whatever the outcome.
-2 or because you're scum.
And I have no idea about what Trentonlf is, so his opinions about others are kinda moot for now.
Even if.. his phrase "I have no interest in voting gogtrial today" was a bit strange and scummy.

Ah, pointing discussions surely feels more pro-town, but it came after your suspicious start (to me) and it's focusing too much on trent for my tastes.

Btw Microfish's semi-concealed highlighted alphabet was weird.. it seemed like a failed (or trolling?) test to insert hidden messages. But.. it doesn't make sense as far as I know. Scum can freely communicate at night, right? And townies don't need secrecy.. or not? *scratches head*

Catte seemed annoyed for real, as far as I know.

Btw the various vote stacking (wagons?) that happened didn't seem that high to me to raise suspicions, frankly.
And I voted you because of your actions, not just because I followed others.

Mainly the speed, it's strange that neither you nor Micro knew where the wagon stood. But maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

Aww, you're just too kind. :)

It's a bit early to have any real town / scum reads on anyone in my opinion, but I know some people go with a general feeling on the content of people's posts. I prefer cold hard facts. Trent's town read could be construed as "buddying up", I suppose, but I do need to have a proper read of everything that's occurred so far, as you all seem to have left me behind in RVS.

Not sure if you're being serious here, as I clearly used OMGUS in that vote ... I'm also not a fan of the capitalisation you've put into my name. Have you got the loaves of bread out already?

And I think I have stated several times that using FOS is a scummy move. Or at least it is a move that can easily be used by scum to fake activity and is unnecessary for Town.

That is such a platitude that it means next to nothing. Also it's a funny inversion: you criticize my asking of a question by saying that asking questions is good. So, which is it?

You're welcome.

What? I don't understand this allusion to bread. What's that about? Some pun I am missing?

Usually Scum have a Night-Chat, yes. Sometimes they even have a Day-Chat that is always open. In the end, that's a balancing decision by the mod. An always open Day-Chat makes the Scum-faction more powerful, since they can coordinate their posts. But Townies do need some secrecy. Power Roles should be kept hidden until it becomes important that they reveal themselves. E.g. a Cop needs to do his investigations without being killed by Scum until he finds something. Once he finds Scum, he will usually reveal himself and say that he found someone.
But some players try breadcrumbing their roles beforehand, to 'proove' later, that their claim wasn't made up on the fly. Breadcrumbing means leaving hidden clues. For example sentences, whose first letters form some word. Or capitalized letters within a sentence, that one can later point out.
Something like: "I think, As a rule, Most of the time Crumbing Ought to be Punished." (which reads I AM COP) - (No, this is not a claim and neither are these actual breadcrumbs. I'm just illustrating the principle.)

Sometimes that works and other players buy the breadcrumbs as 'proof'. But of course it is a tactic that can also be abused by scum.

Sorry, didn't feel like playing yesterday.

It was quite importatn to know the (at least stated) reasons for almost all of them were joke ones and it is understandable people didn't want to make serious wagon out of them.


You made that thing up. It doesn't exist.


Does some of those theories seem more likely to you than others?

I have similar problem with EU IV. Yesterday I just wanted to finish one war in the evening and ended up playing almost until 2 am.

Where and what statistics?


So you'd be fine with wagons made out of RVS votes?


What?
Where'd you get he based it on chance?


Onwards to next page...
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It's a reference to GH bread-crumbing his role a little bit too obviously on Day 1 in the previous game.

It seems you are very interested in what people think of trent's statement but I am still unsure of your position of it.
I think I even asked about it before?

If a lynch happened because of RVS votes I would be highly suspect of anyone on that wagon. But, the wagon getting to 4 votes was not an issue for me because I don't think it would have ever gone to a lynch, but it did create some pressure and that's what we need. Discussion and pressure is the only way we can get info at this point.

Sorry, I've been very lurky for the past few days, I kept falling asleep in the evening. I've been more or less keeping up with the thread, just falling at the participation hurdle.

My point was that I don't regard it as inherently scummy, however your question was pretty much my point. Does this seem un-gogtrially?


It goes back further than that! Breadloafing is the term we coined in the previous Uniwizard Tournament, when GH's friend GR was a cop and breadcrumbed his results so obviously on D2 that we (the scum) immediately knew he was a cop. I'm still a bit broken up about the fact I was outvoted about NKing him... (it didn't end well for us)

Vote Count

nmillar 2 - trent, Lift
Joe 2 - gogtrial, Micro
catte 1 - GH
Micro 1 - Joe
gogtrial 1 - phaolo
phaolo 1 - Vitek
GH 1 - nmillar


Not voting - dedo, blotunga, catte,

nmillar and Joe are closest at L-5

12 players in game. Takes 7 to lynch.

Whenever you see a vote count from me, please make sure your name is against the correct person. Let me know if there are any mistakes.

I'm not voting for him, but I would just like it to be known that I am against Joe. As a concept, let alone a person.

I didn't. Read again what I wrote.

@dedo, blotunga, catte: you're the ones not voting and the game is kind of stalled already. Is there anyone you would vote for at this stage?

Replied to Nmillar/Lift:

I forget if you're one of the ones who knows this, but: it's hard for me to find things to suspect, so when I do I cling to and focus on them a bit more(especially on D1, when I have even less to go on).

(Also your leaving of the Catte wagon, when there were so few votes, struck me as a bit odd as well....more so than your vote on me)

As for the capital letters: I gave up on loaves for this game...that is more a way to emphasize that word instead of bolding it. I often do so(bolding or capitalization) to call player's attentions to some parts of posts....especially if I have a question(as some seem to miss them otherwise).

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I wasn't criticizing you asking questions, but rather you seemingly criticizing others for asking questions.

It's a reference to GR's way of "crumbing" in prior games.

(Bump please)

Fair point.

That said, I was more focused on how fast people seemed to leave some wagons in general....to me it seemed a bit faster than usual....of course my memory could also be acting up a bit as well.