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MaGo72: But but, Hammerwatch is a good game.
I made no mention about the game, but about the "bundle".
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MaGo72: But but, Hammerwatch is a good game.
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Grargar: I made no mention about the game, but about the "bundle".
What I really dislike are those price ranges they introduced, It is no longer pay what you want or beat the average...
- Necrovision, Necrovision: Lost Company and the Hardcore Pack that has them both are -80% at BundeStars
(among other games)

FPS fans: Are they worthwhile at this price?
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HypersomniacLive: I was also looking at it, and noticed that it's a $1=1€ conversion. ॓_॔
What price do you get for Gold Rush! Classic? Here the sale price is $3.83, or €2.99. FFG uses the euro as their base currency, so euro prices should be the "normal" ones.


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HypersomniacLive: What is more interesting, is that within the past few days the following games by Anuman were released on FireFlower Games:

Chicago 1930
Sinking Island
Road to India
Cleopatra: A Queen's Destiny
Destination: Treasure Island
Salammbô

Out of those, only Salammbô is on Steam (and at half price than on FireFlower Games), but under a different publisher (Meridian4).

Could this mean that they might be coming here too? In the not so distant future?
Wow, I hope so! I'd welcome all of those, especially Salammbô and Sinking Island.
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IAmSinistar: What price do you get for Gold Rush! Classic? Here the sale price is $3.83, or €2.99. FFG uses the euro as their base currency, so euro prices should be the "normal" ones.

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The base price is 5.99€, VAT excluded. If I'm not terribly mistaken, it's $5.99 (5.59€) on Steam (can't find it being sold anywhere else), so it is a $1=1€ conversion, but then again it's the only DRM-free version available.
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HypersomniacLive: The base price is 5.99€, VAT excluded. If I'm not terribly mistaken, it's $5.99 (5.59€) on Steam (can't find it being sold anywhere else), so it is a $1=1€ conversion, but then again it's the only DRM-free version available.
The base price for me is $7.67. So while it may be $1=1€, it's in the other direction. I get to pay the euro price along with the rest of you. I just don't pay VAT. They calculate it, but when I check it out it detects I'm in the US and removes it.
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IAmSinistar: The base price for me is $7.67. So while it may be $1=1€, it's in the other direction. I get to pay the euro price along with the rest of you. I just don't pay VAT. They calculate it, but when I check it out it detects I'm in the US and removes it.
I know you do, it looks like some twisted regional flat pricing, i.e. (everyone is locked into the EU price points.
And I do think that this model is equally ill-conceived, as it'd appear that everyone makes more money if the majority of customers is from the US.

I don't think they actually detect your location, the ToS and FAQ say that the final price is calculated based on the location one states when opening an account. So, theoretically I could state that I'm in the US and get the same final price as you; not sure if the checkout would go through with a non-US issued credit card or a non-US based PayPal account.
<span class="bold"><i>Civilization V</i></span> is free to play until the 23rd on Steam.
(Because Civ Beyond Earth gets released on the 24, I suppose)
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madth3: <span class="bold"><i>Civilization V</i></span> is free to play until the 23rd on Steam.
(Because Civ Beyond Earth gets released on the 24, I suppose)
Only till the 23rd? Sounds like their idea of torture.
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madth3: - Necrovision, Necrovision: Lost Company and the Hardcore Pack that has them both are -80% at BundeStars
(among other games)

FPS fans: Are they worthwhile at this price?
Necrovision is a bit like Painkiller : gloomy and dark old school FPS. You can use a different weapon in each hand and some powers if I well remember. The WWI thema is original : it's like Verdun with Zombies !
They worth it at this price :)
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madth3: - Necrovision, Necrovision: Lost Company and the Hardcore Pack that has them both are -80% at BundeStars
(among other games)

FPS fans: Are they worthwhile at this price?
Lost Company is graphically one of the most ugly games I ever played.
But yes, the setting , esp in the first one is more unique and you can do a lot more worse for €4/ $5.


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dyscode: Here watch this and shiver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qzY49-iK-A#t=24 And according to the reviews for the Ultimate Edition this has not changed one bit.

PS: I have a too soft spot for 'bad / underrated' games, too but this is close to the quality of Air Control, IMHO and I won't drop $1 on it.
While Blackbay Asylum and Splatter seem to be THE games of the deal.
Necronomicon is nice but has some insanely hard puzzle early mid game.

and as a side note: the Steam versions Of Dracula are cut down versions that differ from the GOG Versions, which are the full experience.
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MaxFulvus: Thanks for the advices :) I think I have to stay away of Into the Dark !
Concerning Necronomicon, it's a good game, inspired by The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, but a bit too short and easy IMO ( I guess you speak about the dusts puzzles ? Yes, alchemy is hard but interesting ).
Yes, that one, I nearly went bonkers with this. Frak alchemy ;)
Post edited October 21, 2014 by dyscode
Tiny Thief is the Amazon App of the Day,
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HypersomniacLive: I don't think they actually detect your location, the ToS and FAQ say that the final price is calculated based on the location one states when opening an account. So, theoretically I could state that I'm in the US and get the same final price as you; not sure if the checkout would go through with a non-US issued credit card or a non-US based PayPal account.
Well, you'd be able to avoid VAT that way, if they accept whatever payment method you provide.
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IAmSinistar: Well, you'd be able to avoid VAT that way, if they accept whatever payment method you provide.
I was just wondering if a purchase would go through if the location declared in one's account doesn't much the location of the payment method, not trying to avoid VAT.

And speaking of VAT - FireFlower Games has gift certificates/ store credit that one can purchase, but here's an odd thing that happens. Their system subtracts the Swedish VAT (25%), so the final amount that the certificate is worth is less than the money one pays for it, and if it's then used for a purchase, VAT is added at checkout, hence one ends up paying VAT twice.
And if one chooses to gift the certificate to someone not subject to VAT, they do collect it anyway.

I've asked for clarification on this, as the whole approach doesn't make much sense to me.
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HypersomniacLive: I was just wondering if a purchase would go through if the location declared in one's account doesn't much the location of the payment method, not trying to avoid VAT.
I figured. I was just describing a possible side effect. :)

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HypersomniacLive: And speaking of VAT - FireFlower Games has gift certificates/ store credit that one can purchase, but here's an odd thing that happens. Their system subtracts the Swedish VAT (25%), so the final amount that the certificate is worth is less than the money one pays for it, and if it's then used for a purchase, VAT is added at checkout, hence one ends up paying VAT twice.
And if one chooses to gift the certificate to someone not subject to VAT, they do collect it anyway.

I've asked for clarification on this, as the whole approach doesn't make much sense to me.
That's screwed up. They should not be charging VAT on the purchase of the credit, because it is exchanging money for an in-kind currency. That would be like a casino charging sales tax on your betting chips. The VAT should only be charged when the credit is redeemed for goods, and then should only be charged on purchases where VAT is applicable.

Either their accountant is woefully undertrained or they are double-dipping.
Post edited October 21, 2014 by IAmSinistar