Revisor: Wow, that's the first time I've seen an insider share information about Steam pricing and it's directly contradicting what we've thought the whole time - that publishers or devs, not Steam set the price.

Luisfius: Saints Row 2 is the best worst GTA-like. The best, because, well, it is the silliest and funniest one since GTA2. It is an absolute blast to play.

Worst because the port to PC was absolutely crap. It CAN be fixed with two mods, but it is still far from ideal.
The two mods are these:

http://saintsrowpowertools.com/
It fixes (some) performance issues and makes it work. Yeah. Don't play without it.
Hell, you basically CAN'T play without it.

http://idolninja.com/sr2.php
Gentlemen of the Row. Great mod. Adds a shitload of silly stuff, tries to restore content, and last time I checked, was even porting the SR2 DLC that never got released on PC. Besides, flamingo nukes.
Making the best GTA-like even better. I don't think it has things as silly as SR3's dildo weapons, but it is close. Have not played SR3, but Gentlemen of the Row is wonderful and great. Unlocks animations and voices and A LOT OF STUFF ot be used.

Also, once that is done and configured, you can do AWESOME coop multiplayer. It is a blast. At less than five bucks, SR2 is a TOTAL STEAL. Hell, I don't really like GTA, but SR2 is amazing.

Revisor: Wow, that's the first time I've seen an insider share information about Steam pricing and it's directly contradicting what we've thought the whole time - that publishers or devs, not Steam set the price.

thebum06: The price is exactly the same on their official site and on steam. Am I missing something here? Or well, there's the regional $ = € thing, but that's the only difference.

orcishgamer: You're missing the part where if you don't price the same as Steam on your website they drop you like a hot rock. So Steam tells you how much to sell for both on Steam and on your own website. Yea for not not enough competition!

thebum06: I get that, but from the quote the developers say that the "solution" to steam setting the price is to visit their official site, which is not really a solution at all since it's the same price.

FraterPerdurabo: So I tried the 'vanilla' SR2 and it basically made me despise the series. Will the mods really fix what was a very, very, very, very rough gem?

orcishgamer: Well, you get a Steam key and Steam loses the benefit of being able to set the price (because they get zilch, essentially), so yeah, it won't solve the price issue but it may ameliorate the situation long term.

thebum06: Well that's true, it would be beneficial to the developer to buy it from their website even if not for the buyer (although I didn't notice you got a DRM free version on the site as well, so I do see the benefit for buying from the site now).

Didn't know valve were that bad with setting the price themselves either, this is the first developer I hear complaining about it.

Luisfius: Yes. Those mods are compatible with the Steam versions. Hell, IIRC, they don't work if you don't use the steam version, or at least they were NOT compatible with the Gamersgate version. Gamersgate might have had a censored or incomplete one, I don't remember, but they are only guaranteed to work with the steam version.
Then again, I did get my SR2 from the THQ store and registered it on steam when it was 7 bucks, and the mods worked perfectly there. Registered as in "it is now linked to my steam account", not "external game uses the steam overlay", or something.

Foxhack: The daily deal is Rift, $4.99.

MonstaMunch: What's the deal with this? It says a valid credit card is required for the monthly subscription, but it doesn't say how much the monthly subscription is, or what is considered a valid credit card. I use a Visa Debit card that gets accepted by 90% of sites, though some automatically block me because the card was issued by a Cambodian bank.

I'd quite like to buy the game, but not if it will only let me play it for a month. Can anyone confirm what the deal is?