A US company charging more in Europe than in the US? OMG WHEN DID THIS EVER HAPPEN BEFORE?!?!?!

That's actually common. MMOs require a huge time investment when you begin and if you don't do it you quickly lose interest in them. Happened to me with RIFT.

The base game is 60. The digital deluxe edition is a different story, but you don't need that.

What put you off the game then? Looking to get some opinions because so far i've only really heard feedback from youtube gaming channels etc.

Well i think SWTOR will last longer than your usual WoW competitors that's why i think the price won't drop for 'a long time' (by that i mean at least a year or until GW2 comes out).

I know it's true that MMOs usually do drop in subscribers fast (Aion, Warhammer online, Rift, Star Trek) but because this game can be played as a typical single player Bioware RPG, i really think playing an alt will give the game a lot more replayablity due to different storys as opposed to normal MMOs wheres its just a different starting area being the only difference between races.

Personally i still think $60 (or in my case £40) is going over the top. As i stated earlier in a post every other MMO that has come out has been £29 ($40-45?) or less on launch yet this game prices itself as an AAA console title. Again like i said only Activision is the only other dev to my knowledge with the gall to charge console prices for a retail PC game (MW3) and EA shouldn't be rewarded for charging so highly.

If people accept and pay these prices then EA and Activision are just going to exploit PC gamers by charging them the same prices as Console owners and honestly one of the big draws of PC games is that they usually cost a lot less.

I agree that it's too much. It's one thing if all the game files are on there, and all you have to do is install and then launch, but that isn't the case. But EA just likes to copy Activision's pricing schemes.

I myself only buy PC games when they go on sale for hefty discounts even if it means waiting for a long time. No sense in overpaying for any game.

Borderlands is on sale @ Get Game for $4 but then it says "This game is NOT a steam keycode game."

What does that mean? That they don't even provide you with a CD key or is there different types of CD keys for this game. I'm confused.

@worlddan

I think it translates to it cannot use the Steam Achievements available with the Robot Claptrap DLC. You can register under a non-STEAM version in the other game option in STEAM but that non-STEAM version is not compatible with the DLCs on STEAM. STEAM usually has a little blurb on their sale page stating the so and so version of so and so title requires the base game on STEAM to work. It won't show up in the STEAM game grid too I think. I think, don't quote me.

Borderlands is not a steamworks game. They'll provide you with whatever is required for activation but you can't register the game on steam. A lot of people mistakingly think Borderlands is a steamworks game so they're making sure to tell people it's not.

edit: damn ninjas!

My copy of Borderlands is registered just fine on Steam(GOTY edition with all DLCs)

Borderlands vanilla is not a steamworks game which is what Get Game are selling.

You can buy the DLC separately on Steam so i'm guessing you can buy the base game there as well. :\

Steamworks not equals to avaliable on Steam.

It is registered into my account though, and steam has to be run to play it....that sounds like steamworks to me.

If they are specifically telling you it's not a steam key then it's not a Steam key. Which means you can play it without Steam.
My dvd copy of, say Warband, needs Steam to run too. But I downloaded it from the developer's site and can play it without Steam.
I don't know what shanigan is happening with Borderlands but I vaugely remember it going Steamworks after a patch or a dlc.

All I know is that Steam sells it and the DLC, and it needs Steam to run, so it must be steamworks. :\

(BTW I bought it from Steam directly as part of a four pack with others, not from another site......clarifying here.)