kohlrak: Not everything on 3DS is DRMed, unless you consider cartridges DRM, but that's a whole other thing that you're saying you're OK with. I don't know if anyone ever got banned for exploiting their 3ds: they just tend to make updates that break the exploits.
dtgreene: The way I see it, the fact that the console supports DRM is enough of a reason for me to boycott (girlcott?) it, as is the region locking.
(This is also a reason that I am not willing to use Steam, even if games are DRM-free; the platform provides DRM and encourages its use.)
You realize windows itself has DRM, right? If you're using Linux (which would be a good thing), this adds alot of complications that should've been mentioned in the first post. I personally figure that if i want to make a clear stance, if something like steam sees that all or most of my games are games that aren't using their DRM, and i'm not signing into steam, that it'll send a message.
paladin181: Artifact Adventure and its ilk. Fun games. I love them at least.
Unfortunately, I don't like following links to Steam, so I can't tell you whether the game would be suitable. (Note that I do not consider buying it from Steam to be an option.)
Well, if you change your mind, it is one of the DRM-free games.
kohlrak: Have you tried the riva--sister series? It's called Final Fantasy (1-9 are normal, X and up are far more experimental). And if you're really up for it, there's a crap ton of RPG-Maker games out there. Moreover, RPGs are the easiest games to make (hardest to balance, but it sounds to me like you're specifically looking for an unbalanced game if you feel you should have to grind alot).
You say you don't like isometric games, so i don't know how you'd feel about things like fire emblem or first person games like The Quest or The Bard's Tale. However, I did hear of a game called agarest , and i specifically avoided getting it
because of all the reviews saying that it's really, really grindy, but first you'll have to get over it being isometric.
Final Fantasy series: 1 and 2 are pretty close to what I am looking for (though not the GBA and later versions of 1). 3 and onward aren't "grindy" enough for the purposes of this topic (although Final Fantasy 5 is my favorite game in the series).
FF3, IMO, is more grindy than FF1. FF1 isn't even that grindy, really, unless you invest poorly and make all mages or something.
Bard's Tale series I've played recently (though, as usual, I didn't actually complete 2 or 3, though I reached the end of Tarmitia in 3).
Alright, so then you're OK with the "dungeon crawler" (some people define this separate from others in that you literally crawl through dungeons in first person grid-based mode) types. I don't know which ones are grindy, 'cause i don't have many. The one i favor the most is The Quest, which comes in an ugly older version and a not-so-ugly but only currently on DRMed-platforms version (they wanted to release on GOG, but GOG rejected them). It's known for being one of the better games available for mobile devices, since it doesn't use the mobile games format. Keep your eye out for it, but beware how it is different from the bard's tale: there's no separate battle screen, and respawning requires you actually leave a certain region for a certain in game period of time. People say you dont' need to grind to beat it, but that's only true if you know exactly how to build a character that doesn't need grinding, which isn't going to happen your first playthrough, especially if you pick the undead race, which is strongest early on, but totally outclassed by the end of the game due to their magic weakness.
Fire Emblem: I actually have played the 8th game in the series, but I prefer non-tactical RPGs. Also, I don't like the permadeath mechanic, and in most Fire Emblem games you can't re-fight the same battle over and over to level up (where such activity is precisely what I am looking for at the moment).
Well, you'll be happy to knwo that perma-death is now optional in the newer games for when they become available for you. Nintendo listened when they asked people why only a few people like the games..