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HypersomniacLive: I know you're trying to be helpful, but you're misleading medamiedo.
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JMich: So, normal town behavior?
I do mean provable lies! I lie as town when they are not provable - are there players who lie about their NAs / results? I only rembemer dedo+dessimu doing it the 1 time towin the game, though I've not been around as long as the rest of you

ohyeah, I forgot about Ix self-voting as town - who else does?

I wasn't trying to be misleading at all, sorry

I thought I was being accurate! thanks for correcting me - edited my above post - dangit, I thought we could do strikes on here?
Post edited April 06, 2017 by drealmer7
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JMich: So, normal town behavior?
Heh.
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JMich: So, normal town behavior?
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HypersomniacLive: Heh.
I laughed :þ
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HypersomniacLive: I still disagree with the rest, even for an all vanilla setup; it may be good from the replacement's side, and perhaps help with the shortage of subs we face, but it'd still interfere with the game state and progress. Not sure if you saw my post #3619, but I think that is a good example as to why not to do it this way.
The larger question may be "What method of handling replacements is less disruptive than a mod-kill?"

Perhaps the solution is "Announce that Existing Player X is going to be replaced" without announcing who is taking their slot. Each team can make plans based on who is likely to show up, but the player isn't removed from the list without having any effect on the game except reputation (and threat of new eyes). Scum can be aware that "if we NK the slot being replaced, then the specific replacement player might or might not show up later".

That does leave open the question of whether to announce when the replacement will occur, once a replacement is in hand. Tell the replacement in question that they'll be in the game soon, but don't pass them PM data until they can start posting somewhere?

If you don't need to preserve replacements as long as possible, then just toss them in the game pronto. You'll occasionally lose one to NK before he does anything, but it is a straightforward solution. If you're already low on replacements (as is usually the case for us), then I don't see a way around at least one team taking a hit unless the replacement naturally happens during the early/mid day.
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HypersomniacLive: Town, actually lies a lot more than you think; there are a number of players here that don't fully embrace the principle that town never lies.

And certain townies do self-vote here.
Having done both, including self-lynching a town PR out of pique, I can vouch that these are true statements.
Post edited April 06, 2017 by Bookwyrm627
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Bookwyrm627: Having done both, including self-lynching a town PR out of pique, I can vouch that these are true statements.
Well... you were majorly baited...
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Bookwyrm627: snip
I've subbed in quite a bit and that is how it's usually handled behind the scenes. If a player is absent for awhile, I'm generally told who, given warning so I can catch up a bit on the thread, but don't get the PM until its time to be replaced. More than half the time, I don't end up subbing in, often to sub in later for someone else.
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JMich: I'm hurt. You forgot to mention that I'm a horrible human person.
True that. Good thing you have it in your title!



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drealmer7: who is up next?! DEDO!

are you close to set, dedo? have the time?
It is me. I'm in contact with the GOGfather and will be able to confirm or pass tomorrow. I have a large project to review and plan, so my schedule should become more clear afterwards.
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dedoporno: True that. Good thing you have it in your title!



It is me. I'm in contact with the GOGfather and will be able to confirm or pass tomorrow. I have a large project to review and plan, so my schedule should become more clear afterwards.
If you confirm I will find a way to play :)
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Sage103082: waves =)
Hey Sage!! I hope all is well and you can play soon :)
Post edited April 07, 2017 by trentonlf
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trentonlf: Hey Sage!! I hope all is well and you can play soon :)
I agree with trent! he must be scuM!
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drealmer7: I do mean provable lies! I lie as town when they are not provable - are there players who lie about their NAs / results? I only rembemer dedo+dessimu doing it the 1 time towin the game, though I've not been around as long as the rest of you
My more memorable wins are based on brazen lies as town so I'm among the minority that doesn't follow LAL fantically :)
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dedoporno: My more memorable wins are based on brazen lies as town so I'm among the minority that doesn't follow LAL fantically :)
I make most things up as I go along... not strictly planned lying as such, but definitely not 100% telling the truth.

There's LAL and there's LAL, you need to know when to apply it.
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drealmer7: I do mean provable lies! I lie as town when they are not provable - are there players who lie about their NAs / results? I only rembemer dedo+dessimu doing it the 1 time towin the game, though I've not been around as long as the rest of you
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dedoporno: My more memorable wins are based on brazen lies as town so I'm among the minority that doesn't follow LAL fantically :)
well I'm just a huge liar all over apparentlY!
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dedoporno: My more memorable wins are based on brazen lies as town so I'm among the minority that doesn't follow LAL fantically :)
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drealmer7: well I'm just a huge liar all over apparentlY!
Well, you're always scum. So it fits that you are a huge liar too! ;-)
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Bookwyrm627: [...] Perhaps the solution is "Announce that Existing Player X is going to be replaced" without announcing who is taking their slot. [...]
Well, the subs list is public, and when there's only one player listed... Perhaps make the sub list private? Or don't go through it in the order subs signed up, should there be more than one?

So, agreed on the larger question, not sure there's a good answer to it.


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adaliabooks: I make most things up as I go along... [...]
You really didn't need to clarify. Really. ;-P


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drealmer7: well I'm just a huge liar all over apparentlY!
You're supposed to capitalise the first letter of the first word in a sentence, not the last letter of the last word... is this some sort of HijacK infection?
So, is RW the man for the tourney? Did everyone else take a step backwards, leaving him the only one forward?