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Klumpen0815: Don't click this link!
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Navagon: You posted that knowing full well that someone would. :D
I did?
Post edited September 18, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Navagon: You posted that knowing full well that someone would. :D
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Klumpen0815: I did?
Yeah, keep trying. :P
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sasuke12: snip
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dtgreene: If you expect prospective employees to have Facebook accounts, you are discriminating against people whose real names and legal names don't match. Also, why should somebody's out of work activities have any bearing on whether the person is qualified for the job?
Would you ever hire a secretary who has a history of violence and getting in and out of jail ?
Would you ever hire a woman who has falsely accused innocent men of rape/violence ?
Would you ever hire a man who is a convicted felon and a pedophile ?
Sure it is an out of work activity but every human I ever came across ends up mixing work with private life.

Hiring damaged people is like playing with fire. Eventually you get burned.

There is a reason why you can't become a police officer, politician, president if you have drink and driving charges or prior criminal record.


Facebook is a great source of information.
Post edited September 18, 2015 by sasuke12
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dtgreene: If you expect prospective employees to have Facebook accounts, you are discriminating against people whose real names and legal names don't match. Also, why should somebody's out of work activities have any bearing on whether the person is qualified for the job?
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sasuke12: Would you ever hire a secretary who has a history of violence and getting in and out of jail ?
Would you ever hire a woman who has falsely accused innocent men of rape/violence ?
Would you ever hire a man who is a convicted felon and a pedophile ?
Sure it is an out of work activity but every human I ever came across ends up mixing work with private life.

Hiring damaged people is like playing with fire. Eventually you get burned.

There is a reason why you can't become a police officer, politician, president if you have drink and driving charges or prior criminal record.

Facebook is a great source of information.
I think you are mixing up Facebook with the police database here, or is it possible to look up someones list of crimes there too?
Post edited September 18, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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dtgreene: If you expect prospective employees to have Facebook accounts, you are discriminating against people whose real names and legal names don't match. Also, why should somebody's out of work activities have any bearing on whether the person is qualified for the job?
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sasuke12: Would you ever hire a secretary who has a history of violence and getting in and out of jail ?
Would you ever hire a woman who has falsely accused innocent men of rape/violence ?
Would you ever hire a man who is a convicted felon and a pedophile ?
Sure it is an out of work activity but every human I ever came across ends up mixing work with private life.

Hiring damaged people is like playing with fire. Eventually you get burned.

There is a reason why you can't become a police officer, politician, president if you have drink and driving charges or prior criminal record.

Facebook is a great source of information.
Facebook is also a source of bad information. Somebody else might have the same Facebook name as the potential candidate, for example.

Also, there are other privacy issues: What if you find out something about the candidate that you are not allowed to use as a factor in hiring? (This includes Religion and, in some areas, sexual orientation and gender identity.) Even where it is legal, I consider it highly immoral to spy on the employer and, for example, deny employment because she happens to be transgender.

Also, you *can* become a politician with a criminal record, especially if the "crime" is something that is rather popular or is covered up. In fact, I suspect that politicians on average commit crimes more often than the average person. I can think of two cases where elected US officials have ignored court orders: One is, of course, Kim Davis for refusing to issue marriage license, while the other, much older (and much serious) case is Andrew Jackson (then the US president) ignoring the US Supreme Court and forcing Native Americans to leave their lands, causing deaths of thousands.
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vicklemos: That made me smile! Thanks, bro.
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budejovice: Immediately put on Alien Lanes at work after seeing that. I know, different album, but they're both among my favorites. :)
WHOA!!!! Damn just by reading that I got those chills down the spine, no joke!! damn damn this is amazing
then, my friend, I went home listening to the already pre-selected -at work- Auditorium/Motor Away combo (the real motor away one! :P) and even though it was 33ºC in here I felt just like the dude with the furcoat driving on the video :D
I'm thrilled, man, thrilled!!

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Navagon: I remember years and years ago a website emerged called Rate My Turd or something like that. So I guess this phenomenon has already been seen through to its logical conclusion.
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Klumpen0815: Don't click this link!
http://www.ratemypoo.com/
What a crappy site eh, Klumpen?

@navagon: true, man, so true. Again, so rewarding to get at least some fresh air from all the rotten stink of the so called social media! yuck!
Post edited September 18, 2015 by vicklemos
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darthspudius: I use G+ too, most of my friends ended up dumping it because it wasn't cool. Twats! lol
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Darvond: I was so ahead of the curve that I kept my username when the G+ integration of youtube happened. While everyone else lost it, I kicked back my feet!
People lost their username? Can't say I noticed.
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Klumpen0815: Don't click this link!
http://www.ratemypoo.com/
"Watching shit in the internet" has a fully new definition now... Pardon me, while I have to throw up a bit.
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darthspudius: People lost their username? Can't say I noticed.
You were basically nagged to convert over to a G+ account.
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dtgreene: I will still not even consider joining Facebook until they get rid of their "real" (by which they mean legal) name policy and the policy of asking for ID from those whose accounts get reported.
This is no issue. I created a lurker profile just to follow up on the progress of past fr, sorry, enemies, and dearly beloved exs (not). Trust me, with fictitious imagination, you can pass unbelievably crazy nicknames as real names and all... Join without stress or anxiety. But for the love of god, don't ask me; i am a lurker there.

Now, why do i dislike Facebook, hm? That's right! No one would add you, if they don't know you beforehand, and/or from way back... And thanks to all those perverts, weirdos, psychos and criminals, who do crazy, kinky and/or dangerous stuff with people they get to know online, ALL of strangers are now distrusted, never to be talked back at or simply allowed to get to know each other and make new acquaintances. I hate facebook just because of this; you are a stranger, then you are doomed to never be given the time of the day from ANYONE!
Post edited September 18, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Engerek01: On the other end, i believe it will add some negativity to it. I know people will race to dislike eachother. For some reason, for most people its very hard to say "I like your idea" but very easy to say "You suck".
It seems you won't be able to use it for negativity. Quote:

Facebook has been asked about a dislike button for many years, but the company didn’t want to just give users an easy way to criticize a Facebook status. Zuckerberg said Facebook has found that users don’t want to vote down others, but would like to express support when someone shares something sad, such as news about a family member dying or an article about the refugee crisis.

"What they really want is an ability to express empathy," Zuckerberg. “If you’re expressing something sad… it may not feel comfortable to ‘like’ that post, but your friends and people want to be able to express that they understand."
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Engerek01: On the other end, i believe it will add some negativity to it. I know people will race to dislike eachother. For some reason, for most people its very hard to say "I like your idea" but very easy to say "You suck".
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Pardinuz: ....
"What they really want is an ability to express empathy," Zuckerberg. “If you’re expressing something sad… it may not feel comfortable to ‘like’ that post, but your friends and people want to be able to express that they understand."
If that is the case, then it is what it should be. Sometimes someone post a topic like "terrorists killed 5 people". Now should I "like" this message? An Empathy button in the meaning of "I feel you" was needed in such cases.
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Pardinuz: Facebook has been asked about a dislike button for many years, but the company didn’t want to just give users an easy way to criticize a Facebook status.
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"What they really want is an ability to express empathy,"
Yeah.... right.
What they really want is more options to troll each other, that's how humans roll.
We all know what happened to GoG's rep system. ;)
The moment you give people a basket full of rotten eggs, they will throw them.
Post edited September 18, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Pardinuz: Facebook has been asked about a dislike button for many years, but the company didn’t want to just give users an easy way to criticize a Facebook status.
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"What they really want is an ability to express empathy,"
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Klumpen0815: Yeah.... right.
What they really want is more options to troll each other, that's how humans roll.
We all know what happened to GoG's rep system. ;)
The moment you give people a basket full of rotten eggs, they will throw them.
This has already happened in Facebook; the option to report accounts for using a "fake" name has been abused as a weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Facebook_real-name_policy_controversy&oldid=681178147
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/07/04/3676529/truth-behind-facebooks-real-name-policy/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lil-miss-hot-mess/shame-on-facebook-how-zuc_b_7789438.html
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/24/let_me_be_lil_miss_hot_mess_facebook_took_away_my_stage_name/
I can't get what's the problem with basic understanding of people.
If I post something sad, it's pretty *obvious* that a Like should be read as "I'm with you / I'm sad about this" or at least "Thanks for letting me know". Unless you know the guy/girl in question is an a-hole, but FB is not developing better tools for them, right? Right???

If you want to express empathy, there are 26 buttons on your keyboard, called "letters", that will do much better than any emoticon, if you press them in the proper order.
If you have no time to find out the order, it's probably not so important to leave any kind of message - why show an empathy you do not really feel?