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PookaMustard: And yet having giveaways with effort is just as attractive a solution to these scammers. What they'll do? Oh, they'll just upgrade their smarts in order to overcome the new obstacles, and still manage to do their deeds. After all, scammers are humans, right? They'll find ways around your existing systems to get up your self-imposed knit.
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Sachys: Its not though. You should know by the lack of entries into your current (I presume its ongoing) GA that you do not get flooded by entries when you ask for some effort. I've seen some pretty big prizes go with a mere handfull of entries because the effort was too much for too many - and no scam accounts involved at all.
That's because its a drawing GA, and, unfortunately, it seems drawing is more than just effort. But if it were a regular GA that needed just a keyboard of any kind, it'd probably get flooded by entries. There are not even sufficient legit entries to begin with.
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PookaMustard:
...and yet again you're ignoring the facts and nitpicking with points that suit you. Evidently, theres no making you see sense and we will all have to bow to your much less experienced will in the near future when your new friends the scummers become our overlords and outlaw the GOGbear[url=http://what an utter cheb-end you are!].[/url]
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PookaMustard: That's because its a drawing GA, and, unfortunately, it seems drawing is more than just effort. But if it were a regular GA that needed just a keyboard of any kind, it'd probably get flooded by entries. There are not even sufficient legit entries to begin with.
This isn't actually true, and if you had actually been a member here for more than five minutes you'd know that.

Scammers are lazy. If they really wanted free games you know what they could do? Join the community and be nice, decent people. But that's far too much effort compared to scooping up dropped codes or entering for giveaways that require nothing more than an "I'm in" to enter.
The sum participation of scammers in any of the more complicated giveaways is to down rep everyone in the thread and send fake PMs stating the giveaway has been closed.
Because if they can't have it, no one can.
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Sachys: Paul Verhoven - worlds greatest director of dystopic sci fi films.
That sentence is just about the most wrong thing I have ever seen.
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Sachys: Paul Verhoven - worlds greatest director of dystopic sci fi films.
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Breja: That sentence is just about the most wrong thing I have ever seen.
name any ten
dystopic sci fi films that were good or great. bet verhoven has directed more than anyone else! ;)
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Breja: That sentence is just about the most wrong thing I have ever seen.
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Sachys: name any ten
dystopic sci fi films that were good or great. bet verhoven has directed more than anyone else! ;)
I'm with you but that's a rough question and WAY too subjective, especially with that genre. For every 100 people that loved 1138 I can find 100 that thought it was a piece of shit. The same goes for "A Boy and His Dog", "A Clockwork Orange", "Things to Come", "Mad Max 1,2" (Everyone thought #3 sucked), "1984", and the list goes on.
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PookaMustard: Heh, the anti-code droppers seem desperate enough to get their anti-code dropping points across. They forgot that there are no rules against codes dropped and that if anything, they're leading their own witch hunt against god knows what other generous souls are out there.
You act as if some terrible, evil people were trying to punish you for being generous. Oh, you poor, poor, misunderstood thing.

We're trying to make this forum a better place. A place that does not attract scammers, whre making giveaways actually makes sense. I really don't understand why are you so desperate to defend dropping codes. I mean, even if you don't agree that not doing so will disencourage scammers... what do you have to lose? Is your generosity so lazy that doing a giveaway other than just droping a code is out of the question? If you listen to our plea then the worst that can happen is... nothing. And the best is less scammers and a more honest, giveaway friendly environment.

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Sachys: name any ten
dystopic sci fi films that were good or great. bet verhoven has directed more than anyone else! ;)
Actually, he only directed the bad ones.

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tinyE: "Mad Max 1,2" (Everyone thought #3 sucked)
I don't. Actually, I like it more than the first one.

You want ten great dystopian films, here you go (in no particular order)

Brazil
GATTACA
Children of Men
Blade Runner
Dark City
Escape from New York
Logan's Run
Silent Running
Minority Report
V for Vendetta

And I intentionally didn't even go into wasteland style post apocalypse.
Post edited November 12, 2015 by Breja
Good, now all of my friends and I are at each others throats. XD
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tinyE: Good, now all of my friends and I are at each others throats. XD
Hey, you're not really friends if you don't have a decent fight about movies from time to time.
Post edited November 12, 2015 by Breja
Point of order about Escape From New York, and this is true. They didn't build any sets for it, they just set up cameras in downtown St. Louis Missouri. Point being there is nothing "future" about it. :P
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Breja: You want ten great dystopian films, here you go (in no particular order)

Dark City
Just to split hairs - not technically a dystopian film (wont say why due to spoilers) but it doesnt actually count (due to the spoilers).

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Breja: V for Vendetta
Couldn't say it was great by any means - barely even made "good"
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Sachys: Just to split hairs - not technically a dystopian film (wont say why due to spoilers) but it doesnt actually count (due to the spoilers).
I wasn't sure about including it, but it seems to be most often classified as dystopian. Whatever. You can replace it with WALL-E then :D

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Breja: V for Vendetta
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Sachys: Couldn't say it was great by any means - barely even made "good"
Guess that just goes to show how different our tastes are. I think it's great, even if highly flawed as an adaptation.

By the way, am I the only one who really liked Surrogates with Bruce Willis? I wouldn't go as far as to call it "great", but I do think it's underrated.
Post edited November 12, 2015 by Breja
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Breja: By the way, am I the only one who really liked Surrogates with Bruce Willis? I wouldn't go as far as to call it "great", but I do think it's underrated.
I think if I hadn't just read the comics when the film happened to be on TV the next night, and instead seen the film with no knowledge of the comics at all... I'd have probably enjoyed it - but much as I like Ving Rhames, he was a weird choice for the preacher guy.
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PookaMustard: And yet having giveaways with effort is just as attractive a solution to these scammers. What they'll do? Oh, they'll just upgrade their smarts in order to overcome the new obstacles, and still manage to do their deeds. After all, scammers are humans, right? They'll find ways around your existing systems to get up your self-imposed knit.
I wouldn't hold my breath, as from what I've seen here a lot of scammers are just out to score a free game for little to no effort expended on their part. If they really are so desperate for a free game that they're willing to make up a song, make up a poem, or do some creative writing, then at least I've gotten them to do something half-way decent.

And then there's the physical giveaways that I've been focusing more on in the past. If they want their free game, they're going to have to send me at least some form of a mailing address. Sure, someone could just give me a fake address and the game I send will go into never-never land (or just come back to me marked as return to sender), but in that case, they're not getting their free game.

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PookaMustard: Oh please, I just told you that all giveaways are harmful because they attract the very phobia you fear. Just give them up.
If you're talking about giveaways where people just ask others to enter with little/no effort given, then sure. I'll agree with you. But there's a difference between those and those where the gifter is actually asking the people entering to do something that at least in some small way gives back to the community.

The links are buried in the distant past of GOG, but I've hosted giveaways where people had to write rap songs or poems, or had to write mini stories based off of a writing prompt. One of the most memorable for me was one where I asked people to make up a game parody song in the same sprit as Yahtzee's Deus Ex opening theme riff. There were some truly creative and genuinely hilarious entries there. Sure, maybe back then one of those giveaways involved scammers as entrants. Call me an idealist, but if someone who is a scammer is contributing something back to the forum at large that amounts to more than just a one line "im in!" post, or even actually makes other people smile on the forums, then at least they're giving something back to the community for their game.

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PookaMustard: For me, let people who want to code drop do manage to code drop...
At the very least then, keep it contained to a singular thread instead of random threads posted all over the forums.

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PookaMustard: As long as they don't break the rules or break a 'gray area rule', they're clear to steer, regardless of what strange observations you have gathered and generalized.
Strange observations? People have gone out and publicly bragged about all of the games they've scored from their scammy behaviour. And even if they're lying, you're basically disregarding and ignoring everything that's broken out on this forum since the beginning of this year.

If you think me citing people who are actively bragging about doing behaviour that's harmful to the community is a "strange observation", then there's nothing more to be said. Except that I hope you remember that there was (and I argue, still is) more to this forum community than it being just a dumping ground for excess Steam keys, a free ATM for Steam keys, or a place to do trades. That's the reason why people are still passionate about protecting it.
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rampancy:
Well that gets my "big fuck-off" sized YARP! for the day. How much to get you to talk to the tax man on my behalf?! :)