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clarry: And that's why I hardly enjoy games these days. It's difficult to find games that are focused and that provide meaning, challenging, and exciting gameplay mechanics or a damn good story instead of a slog through boring fights and irrelevant errands that only exist to "reward" you and which aren't intrinsically fun.
I can't play most games post-2010 (only have played Age of decadence and some adventures made in this decade), but what I've seen from new games in videos etc. often seems very dumbed down. Golden age of gaming seems to have been the late 1990s to mid-2000s.
Surprisingly, I've never got 'addicted' to a game before.

Sure, I've been persistent, but not addicted.
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rtcvb32: I remember a friend commenting how he refuses to play WoW. (not only does he not have the money or computer to do it, but beyond that...) He watched his friend who played WoW pull up the game to show him something, then get sucked into it. He said his friend 'devolved', becoming so immersed in the game that it was all he could do.

An excess of video games is bad for your brain. Too much screen time in front of your smart phone is also bad. And yet smart phones are being used as impromptu babysitters (for babies and young children) while having addictive yet super predatory monetization methods and gimmicks similar to casinos. Let's not forget children having issues using pens/pencils because they haven't built up the muscle strength or fine movement in their fingers.
I heard about the pen/pencil strength issue, good thing I warned my sister about it, she heavily controls my nephew's tablet pc time and its paid off dividends.
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Lucumo: Used to play World of Tanks regularly, then quit after I got screwed out of ~100€ (1 year premium account). Damn Wargaming.net, I liked that game.
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Lord_Kane: WoT has gone to complete hell now, just reeeeing about stats, winrates and wn8's now, sooo toxic.
sorry to hear about getting screwed.
I'm trying to remember...was there even chat in the game? If so, it actually wasn't much used when I played it (looking at my profile now, I quit early 2014, although it says I last played in May for some reason, despite stopping early February due to actually not being able to "play" thanks to Wargaming.net). And yeah, 720 battles (my most) in the Aufklärungspanzer Panther. Good times.
Game was broken anyway, with gold ammo and premium tanks which could completely destroy the opposition like the Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) or Pz.Kpfw. T 15 (T3 tanks).
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Lord_Kane: WoT has gone to complete hell now, just reeeeing about stats, winrates and wn8's now, sooo toxic.
sorry to hear about getting screwed.
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Lucumo: I'm trying to remember...was there even chat in the game? If so, it actually wasn't much used when I played it (looking at my profile now, I quit early 2014, although it says I last played in May for some reason, despite stopping early February due to actually not being able to "play" thanks to Wargaming.net). And yeah, 720 battles (my most) in the Aufklärungspanzer Panther. Good times.
Game was broken anyway, with gold ammo and premium tanks which could completely destroy the opposition like the Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) or Pz.Kpfw. T 15 (T3 tanks).
Thankfully ships lacks the premium ammo, a friend still plays world of tanks, and bitches endlessly about it, as its made armor completely uselss and irrelevant, and then making it available for normal silver currency was probably the worst thing ever. should be locked behind clan wars as far as I am concerned.

but yeah in my opinion world of warships is a better game, it has its issues too, but who know how long before it treads the path of WoT....
Post edited December 12, 2018 by Lord_Kane
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clarry: I see right through these games now and they bore the guts out of me. I can see they're all about instant gratification (loot, exp, neverending trickle of "reward"). I see right through all that; it's not fun. It's just cheap and repetitive. I could write my own endless quest & item generator if I wanted one.. but what's the point?
I completely agree. "Unlock for the sake of unlocking" & "Grind for the sake of grind" have to be the most tedious, mind-numbing mechanics in modern 'games' imaginable. Why would I find spending 200hrs grinding to unlock a powerful shotgun appealing in 2018, when I had that shotgun in the first 5 mins of Doom (1993) - and the gunplay in that 25 year old game felt like it had more "bite" to it than half of today's "peashooter vs tank" multi-player FPS's.

I'm sure at least some of this is undiagnosed Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Just like some people with gambling addictions get easily caught up in lootboxes / micro-transactions, I'm sure there are other people who experience an excessive "Dopamine high" / abnormal neurological compulsion for engaging in the most trivial repetitive tasks in games with no plot, no ending (and in modern MP FPS's with controller auto-aim, no real aiming skill either...)
Post edited December 13, 2018 by AB2012
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Mastur_Master: well idk if you guys know, but i'm addicted to my d!ck.. :'( i try to push and pull it but it refuses to go away! what can i do now? :-|
Bop it? Flick it? Spin it? Twist it?
Post edited December 13, 2018 by user deleted
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AB2012: "Unlock for the sake of unlocking" & "Grind for the sake of grind" have to be the most tedious, mind-numbing mechanics in modern 'games' imaginable.
To be fair, some people grind for the sake of grinding to wind down from work, to do something mind-numbing to balance out what they did for the last X hours. Asian MMOs (or older RPGs) used to be great for that.
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AB2012: "Unlock for the sake of unlocking" & "Grind for the sake of grind" have to be the most tedious, mind-numbing mechanics in modern 'games' imaginable.
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Lucumo: To be fair, some people grind for the sake of grinding to wind down from work, to do something mind-numbing to balance out what they did for the last X hours. Asian MMOs (or older RPGs) used to be great for that.
This. So much this. Grinding in any Shin Megami Tensei is my meditation.
low rated
I feel so betrayed.

My favorite band ever and it turns out after all this time Jane's Addiction was Space Invaders.
I got into some mmos, dont think i was addicted as I worked and had normal real life stuff going on but I sure logged on and played most days for years to do maintenance stuff. It can be very satisfying and fun if you have good online game family to play with. What burned me out to the genre was the invasion of micro transactions, loot boxes and the general nasty behavior of other players, cheating bots and so on. I stay away from them now. However i now find myself getting involved in game apps that have all those same negatives yet seem so harmless as they arent mmos per se.


I tend to like games where you build up your world thru work and grinding. im boring
Although some here can't get addicted to a particular game, can you say for certain you're not addicted to gaming in general? Can you get up, turn off your systems and give up playing without feeling a powerful drive to return?

Everone has a measure of addiction to certain things, the moment it becomes a problem is when it consumes your life and affects your health & relationships.
About the video, I believe that WOW is one of the most addictive worst games out there, and I am sorry to say this but I always get away of it and kept it really far away from me, I got a friend that DIVORCED because of WOW, he kept playing in the night, arriving late to the job, never pay attention to her, starting to got problems of agoraphobia and finally she divorced, for a good reason I need to say even if he is my friend.

Addiction doesn´t just show off as an unstoppable willing to play. In the last days some criticized this guy for being a violent asshole (and he is of course) but I believe has much more to be with the fact HE IS VERY ADDICTED , junkies have similar violent reactions out of drugs, without the need to be "patriarchal" or "gender violence", I bet this guy were hit his brother, or mother for just interrupt him playing because he is fucking addicted and SICK.

(She seems also to throw things at him, to the point of breaking his patience, but he crossed the line, so both may been having problems, but he crossed the line for two things, 1st) if she is throwing stuff to you, you stop playing and you say "hey whats wrong" in a good way, and stop her bad behavior in a KIND way forgetting the fucking game, 2nd) he does the same as her but much WORSE and strong, not consider she is pregnant, this is just out of the line by far)

All these seems to point to a big addiction IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yHy0gcZ11Y

Just my two cents, if you get angry for some real person interrupt your "awesome kill streak" or your game whatever to the point of want to yell or hit someone, (and even if you control yourself) you MAY HAVING PROBLEMS.
Post edited December 13, 2018 by YaTEdiGo
I would like to add what I said after seeing the complete video on Youtube:

Just my other two cents

"I absolutely agree with part of this, i see a friend lost his wife because of WOW, a game I always kept away from me (and similar ones) . But not with the other part, I need to say that many people fall into these addictions, not just on games, not because of the games or the drugs. But for the main reason the video tries to sell as "good", is marriage really so satisfying? is worklife (8 hours a day) in most part of the cases for more than earn money and sadly wait day by day for vacation or the weekends a good reason to cheer about life? what if as many friends I know, specially in Asia, they cannot have a GF just because they need to OWN a house for that? What if most part of people have jobs they DESPISE?

The answers to people escaping reality are not in addictions, games as drugs are PATCHs to escape reality, because probably is that life itself is far to be good or acceptable for them, their dreams, proper or not, are twisted and far to be reach, and don´t sell people that "if you want it, you achieve it" that´s just partially true. I am happy and I guess lucky because I am working on videogames for 15 years, and i never had any social problem related to them, but what if I like videogames and its not my job? what if I would not be naturally a social person? (I cannot stand everyday playing, I need to go out and do stuff from sports to meet friends) What if someone cannot find good friends or a job she or he likes?

The answers to this problem aren´t just in the addiction itself. Not even just in psychiatry of psychology, is also sociological and directly related to the "way of life" we built as humans."
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YaTEdiGo: I absolutely agree with part of this, i see a friend lost his wife because of WOW, a game I always kept away from me (and similar ones) . But not with the other part, I need to say that many people fall into these addictions, not just on games, not because of the games or the drugs. But for the main reason the video tries to sell as "good", is marriage really so satisfying? <snip>
I wonder if i would be easier or harder to get into video games if it wasn't for being frugal... or autistic. The biggest thing keeping me probably out of WoW and drugs and drinking alcohol and other forms of escapism, is that i can't justify the cost. I remember being in South Korea, and hearing about soldiers who went off on payday during a weekend, 2 days later come back empty handed and no idea where any of the money went. No i can't justify it, so i don't do it.

But what if i didn't have the experience at 5 and made to be frugal? I wonder...

And personal experience, marriage isn't really that satisfying. But with someone you can trust implicitly, and you can cuddle with while watching a movie... might just make it worth it. Course if there's enough sex, that certainly would make it worth it...

And yet things still come down to politics... Government makes laws that affect the jobs or ability to make jobs, which affects income, which affects you ability to have stuff and a house, which affects your being able to have a girlfriend or wife. No wonder people seek escapism, because they aren't given a chance at what would actually be good.