idbeholdME: Honestly, I admire these people. The amount of talent and dedication they have to have to be able to break these things seemingly without much effort.
tinyE: That's what I'm wondering.
I don't doubt they possess immeasurable talent, beyond words, but Denuvo is being cracked so quickly whenever it shows up, I'm wondering if they actually require any of that talent for this? :P
It's a virtual Maginot Line. Oh sure, it looks daunting and impressive, until you realize you can just walk around it. :P
I remember a game on steam with it's entire soundtrack encrypted in a single file. It didn't take me long to realize it was the 3 letter version of the company name as an Exclusive OR key that simply repeated over an OGG file.
The problem with things like this is that, ultimately, they often end up using the same techniques with slight modifications. You can't imagine that you'd spend years developing a new scheme for encryption and such only to have it cracked in half the time, then suddenly develop an entirely new method.
That's not to say these people aren't talented on either side, but, frankly, it's a loosing battle.
idbeholdME: Honestly, I admire these people. The amount of talent and dedication they have to have to be able to break these things seemingly without much effort... Hackers in general are some of the most talented IT people out there.
Lukaszmik: I can't speak for the state of affairs in the last few years, but a long time ago when I did some related work there were a lot of payloads in the most popular "distributions."
It's the perfect venue for establishing a botnet, much less simple remote access. People who torrent generally keep their machines online much more than others, they may not notice much slowdown in connection speeds (especially if they keep their torrent client up), and, for that matter, often are rather technically illiterate.
Not saying there aren't people getting their kicks from solving such technical problems as DRM (and, honestly, fuck anybody contributing to it), but I suspect the presence of quietly-backed private or state players is pretty high there.
That's still going on, and even worse now. I had a kid a few years back tell me how he made a huge botnet: went to the pirate bay and uploaded his "RAT" under the name of the newest movie. Did they care that it was an EXE file? Nope, they not only downloaded it, but didn't delete it when they noticed it didn't work.