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CarrionCrow: I'm not typically a fan either. The game seems to have a lot more in terms of interactivity, and I also want it to succeed so the company can bring some of their worst titles to PC.

Telltale is all about the illusion of meaningful choice. Watch a Let's Play of, say, the Walking Dead, and you can really notice how ultimately inconsequential the choices are.

I've rented a few games that got rejected by GOG. With each one, I could see why they chose to not accept them.
Bugs, gameplay problems, major lack of polish, things like that.

-laughs- That's an incredibly dumb thing to do if there's even a fraction of a chance that the show will be continued. Taking the biggest, best prop you've got and destroying it is incredibly short-sighted.
That's the thing, knowing how little my actions mean in Telltale games, I think I would rather watch a let's play and view it as a movie rather than an expensive interactive movie with little interaction at all and no real appeal as a game. At least then I could do something else while watching and feel like I actually accomplished something, rather than throwing money away at a game that promises things and does not deliver. If it had more meaningful outcomes then maybe, buy let's be honest, no big company will spend money on alternative outcomes, they won't spend time and resources on parts people might not even see. Indie developers might, but not bigger companies. They seem obsessed with you viewing it how they want, not how you want.

It is not just bugs and polish, some have been bundled, or been in many Steam sales. It is simply not profitable for GOG to have them here after all that. If it was day one then sure, but if the game has been out for a year or more, been in bundles, and on sale, many gamers who want it already own it.

I agree, but I guess if the BBC are pressuring for time maybe they simply did not have time for a new model and blew it up, thinking they could make another one but for some reason never did.

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ElTerprise: Think i'll try that game - and check if it's really that badly optimised ....because those requirements are way out of proportion....

Let's hope so - not that i'm sure that i'll actually get that game but i always want the best version available on GOG. Absolutely agree - would do the same.
There seems to be many 2D games now that require 1GB+ of VRAM, which seems strange given that even 3D complex games don't often need that. They blame the engine, but then another developer comes along with the same engine and it's optimised, so I guess some a lot of it really is lazy developers.
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ddickinson
Most pc developers seem to use some emulator nowadays, everything runs and looks like crap, they even make phone ports run like crap in powerfull pc's.. Hopefully dark souls 3 isn't the worst port ever.. Still it totally can be.
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ddickinson: There seems to be many 2D games now that require 1GB+ of VRAM, which seems strange given that even 3D complex games don't often need that. They blame the engine, but then another developer comes along with the same engine and it's optimised, so I guess some a lot of it really is lazy developers.
That and the lack of skill are definitely important factors.
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Antimateria: Most pc developers seem to use some emulator nowadays, everything runs and looks like crap, they even make phone ports run like crap in powerfull pc's.. Hopefully dark souls 3 isn't the worst port ever.. Still it totally can be.
Emulators they don't know how to optimise, by the look of things. I guess they chose the easy path rather than make a decent port, even AAA developers have been making terrible ports recently, not that they have not done this for ages, but some seem to be very much broken.

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ElTerprise: That and the lack of skill are definitely important factors.
You forgot the "indie" excuse they get to use every time to excuse their bad practices and lack of effort. :-)
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ddickinson: You forgot the "indie" excuse they get to use every time to excuse their bad practices and lack of effort. :-)
I already counted that with the "lazy developer" factor - but yes that is another problem.
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ElTerprise: I already counted that with the "lazy developer" factor - but yes that is another problem.
I wonder... now that indies are charging AAA prices do we get to hold them to the same level, or will fanboys still defend them as poor old indies? :-)

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I think I will be calling it a night. My head is feeling a little better and my nosebleeds have finally stopped, so hopefully that is the last of them for a while.

Have a good night, everyone!

*goodnight sleepy hugs*
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ddickinson
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ddickinson: I wonder... now that indies are charging AAA prices do we get to hold them to the same level, or will fanboys still defend them as poor old indies? :-)
Well they probably will - same like all fanboys do - but then there shouldn't be any difference in terms of valid and constructive critism between Indie games and non-Indie games in the first place.

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ddickinson: I think I will be calling it a night. My head is feeling a little better and my nosebleeds have finally stopped, so hopefully that is the last of them for a while.

Have a good night, everyone!

*goodnight sleepy hugs*
That's good to hear - hopefully it'll stay that way. I wish you a good night and sleep well *big good night hugs* :)


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Think i'm also going to sleep now. Wish you all a goodnight. and see you tomorrow :)
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ElTerprise
Hmm. Well...I hadn't planned on drinking, but at least when I put a cigarette out and part of the ember sticks to my finger, I can't really feel it.
Sounds like a plus to me.
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CarrionCrow: Hmm. Well...I hadn't planned on drinking, but at least when I put a cigarette out and part of the ember sticks to my finger, I can't really feel it.
Sounds like a plus to me.
weell... it may or may not be a plus... depending on how you feel in the morning-after :P

I hope you don't require an hour in the bath tub like my brother who just woke up today after heavy partying ;)

Just to try and add something to your last-night's conversation: I checked out Red Dwarf for a bit... vudu.com has many seasons available from the first one onwards... they allow for 2 minute preview and that looked like fun :)
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superstande: weell... it may or may not be a plus... depending on how you feel in the morning-after :P

I hope you don't require an hour in the bath tub like my brother who just woke up today after heavy partying ;)

Just to try and add something to your last-night's conversation: I checked out Red Dwarf for a bit... vudu.com has many seasons available from the first one onwards... they allow for 2 minute preview and that looked like fun :)
No worries on that one. Didn't drink very much, it's already wearing off and I don't get hangovers.

It's a fun show, you might enjoy it. My finding it was a total fluke. Watched a bit, enjoyed it, wanted to watch all of it.
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ddickinson: The new Downfall recommends 8GB of RAM, and 2GB of VRAM, and at least a quad-core. And yet the game looks terrible (in respect to other games that require similar specs). It is based on The Cat Lady engine, but compare the specs for this and The Cat Lady. How can a simplistic 2D point and click type game recommend that it needs 8GB of RAM and 2GB of VRAM, especially one that looks like Downfall?
For what it's worth, I've tried Downfall Redux's demo and it worked just fine on my cheap-y laptop. My specs are i3-3120 cpu @ 2.50GHz, 6 gigs of ram and Intel HD 4000 graphics. I bought Downfall Reux last night so we'll see if it runs as well as the demo did, but the demo itself ran perfectly. It could be a case of a dev or publisher not really knowing what the minimum specs are and overcompensating as a result, assuming it DOES work as well as the demo.
Good morning - or good whatever you choose - it's still dark but the birds are singing happily, so dawn is not far off. Hope those of you who weren't feeling well will soon be on the mend.

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ZenWan: Crow at the helm.
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zeogold: I wonder what our roles would be if we were all on a ship.
I'd probably be the navigator.
I want to be the engineer, please please. When I was a child, my father called me his little engineer; I'm a star at fixing things with bits and pieces of nothing, and making stuff that involves using string and nameless things you leave lying around in case you find a use for them. :-)
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superstande: Hola, ZenWan! :)
What's up?! We've missed you!!
Hi superstande, thanks for missing me, it means a lot, truly. I've missed you too and your great music, hope you get your game soon.
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ZenWan
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ZenWan: Good morning - or good whatever you choose - it's still dark but the birds are singing happily, so dawn is not far off. Hope those of you who weren't feeling well will soon be on the mend.
Good morning. =)

Silly birds. They chirp happily no matter what happens. -laughs-

How are you doing today?
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Empress_Owl: Good morning, lovely thread ! welcome back to Pimp and Zenwan !
Good to hear from you :-)
I hope everything is fine at your end, wherever it is.

**Big hugs all around with coffee**
Bonjour Owl, and thank you for the welcome back, it 's much appreciated, and for the coffee - yum. Hope that you and the owlets are doing well, apart from the ankle, which I'm sure will mend soon.



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CarrionCrow: -laughs- It's not me in control. That would end horribly, sooner or later.
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ddickinson: But we like to picture you at the helm, screaming and cackling like a mad man while playing some terrible game. :-)
Great image, DD, I loved that. :-)

Hope you will soon be well again.


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ZenWan: Good morning - or good whatever you choose - it's still dark but the birds are singing happily, so dawn is not far off. Hope those of you who weren't feeling well will soon be on the mend.
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CarrionCrow: Good morning. =)

Silly birds. They chirp happily no matter what happens. -laughs-

How are you doing today?
Good morning, Crow, always good to see you. The chirping ones are ok, it's the big ones that make a very loud shrill caw like something out of Mordor that I'm not so fond of. They like the big trees here, and turf wars ensue.

Fortunately I get up before they do.

Have some coffee? I've made a fresh pot..
Post edited March 05, 2016 by ZenWan
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ZenWan: Good morning, Crow, always good to see you. The chirping ones are ok, it's the big ones that make a very loud shrill caw like something out of Mordor that I'm not so fond of. They like the big trees here, and turf wars ensue.

Fortunately I get up before they do.

Have some coffee? I've made a fresh pot..
An upshot to being such an early riser...

Coffee does sound good right now. Course, I can't think of many times that it doesn't.

Looking at the weekend sale. It has good items, but I already have them all.
Post edited March 05, 2016 by CarrionCrow