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zeogold: What were you lookin' to buy?
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j0ekerr: Werewolf sourcebooks.

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CarrionCrow: Wouldn't worry too much about it. In that same, I want it because I remember it and it was cool way, I wanted to buy those too.
But, given that I have no people to play with, it would've ultimately been pointless. Also, with the revamped V20 versions of everything coming out, those feel like the definitive items to get.
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j0ekerr: That describes my situation so perfectly, It's almost uncanny.
Hurm, yes about that, the fact that what was offered in the bundle was the revised edition, makes me think that they won't be offering the 20 anniversary ones.I'm guessing they probably want to keep those as some sort of premium product.
What's the difference though? The lore remains the same, with some changes done from hindsight? Or did they revamp the whole D10 system?
I recently got the gurps version of vampire at masquerade for the hell of it they also have a gurps werewolf

Damn autocorrect
Post edited February 23, 2016 by pimpmonkey2382.313
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j0ekerr: That describes my situation so perfectly, It's almost uncanny.
Hurm, yes about that, the fact that what was offered in the bundle was the revised edition, makes me think that they won't be offering the 20 anniversary ones.I'm guessing they probably want to keep those as some sort of premium product.
What's the difference though? The lore remains the same, with some changes done from hindsight? Or did they revamp the whole D10 system?
They won't be. Or at least, they won't be offering the 20th anniversary editions for years. Not on Bundle of Holding, anyway.

From what I've read about it, they took out the more overt ticking clock, everything's going to end vibe, changed the pacing so everything's still headed that way, but it's more gradual.
On a mechanical level, they revamped and cleaned up the rules that got harder and harder to mesh together as the world sprawled into all the different corebooks, supplementals, all that crap.
Post edited February 23, 2016 by CarrionCrow
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j0ekerr: That describes my situation so perfectly, It's almost uncanny.
Hurm, yes about that, the fact that what was offered in the bundle was the revised edition, makes me think that they won't be offering the 20 anniversary ones.I'm guessing they probably want to keep those as some sort of premium product.
What's the difference though? The lore remains the same, with some changes done from hindsight? Or did they revamp the whole D10 system?
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CarrionCrow: They won't be. Or at least, they won't be offering the 20th anniversary editions for years. Not on Bundle of Holding, anyway.

From what I've read about it, they took out the more overt tickling clock, everything's going to end vibe, changed the pacing so everything's still headed that way, but it's more gradual.
On a mechanical level, they revamped and cleaned up the rules that got harder and harder to mesh together as the world sprawled into all the different corebooks, supplementals, all that crap.
The gurps vampire seems quite a bit like the original I was quite impressed by that and that it was an old product
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pimpmonkey2382.313: The gurps vampire seems quite a bit like the original I was quite impressed by that and that it was an old product
For me, GURPS World of Darkness would be something to use if I was already doing a campaign where people are jumping into different worlds/dimensions/whatever.
Otherwise, I just stuck with classic World of Darkness stuff and used that.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: The gurps vampire seems quite a bit like the original I was quite impressed by that and that it was an old product
As far as I know, it's just a rule set adaptation.
The interesting thing about those games was not the game's system (which wasn't that great to be honest) but the lore.
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CarrionCrow: They won't be. Or at least, they won't be offering the 20th anniversary editions for years. Not on Bundle of Holding, anyway.

From what I've read about it, they took out the more overt tickling clock, everything's going to end vibe, changed the pacing so everything's still headed that way, but it's more gradual.
On a mechanical level, they revamped and cleaned up the rules that got harder and harder to mesh together as the world sprawled into all the different corebooks, supplementals, all that crap.
Makes sense.
Oh yes, that's something that needed to be done, and it's quite welcome.
Back in the day, when making a 3D model with actual fingers was still thought of as futuristic sci-fi, we noticed a pattern in every new rule, source and lore book that came out. Something we dubbed "the white wolf syndrome". Which could be described as this.
Every new clan, tribes and/or sourcebook that White Wolf put out, came with such overpowered abilities and game-breaking expanded rule sets that it instantly beat everything else, crowning itself king of the munchkins.
Until the next sourcebook at least.
Post edited February 23, 2016 by j0ekerr
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pimpmonkey2382.313: The gurps vampire seems quite a bit like the original I was quite impressed by that and that it was an old product
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CarrionCrow: For me, GURPS World of Darkness would be something to use if I was already doing a campaign where people are jumping into different worlds/dimensions/whatever.
Otherwise, I just stuck with classic World of Darkness stuff and used that.
From what I read on wiki vtm was originally to be gurps anyway but they declined at the time but decided to go through with it when the wod version became popular
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CarrionCrow: For me, GURPS World of Darkness would be something to use if I was already doing a campaign where people are jumping into different worlds/dimensions/whatever.
Otherwise, I just stuck with classic World of Darkness stuff and used that.
Well there was that one game, which allowed you to visit different planes/worlds/dimensions while staying firmly put in WoD.
And there was the Umbra too.
The awesome thing about gurps vtm it has a shit ton of conversion info from wod to gurps I could probably convert my dark ages vampire stuff without any problems
I had the gurps once, very ugly. Fortunately a bit of Pepto Bismol cleared it right up. ;-)

Howdy all, busy day here and I'm pooped.
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EndreWhiteMane: I had the gurps once, very ugly. Fortunately a bit of Pepto Bismol cleared it right up. ;-)

Howdy all, busy day here and I'm pooped.
*hugs* how are you,? How was your appointment? Hopefully better than my last
Gurps, for all your cross-overing needs.

Also, what is saints row 2 like?
Yahtzee has begrudgingly admitted to experiencing fun with it.
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EndreWhiteMane: I had the gurps once, very ugly. Fortunately a bit of Pepto Bismol cleared it right up. ;-)

Howdy all, busy day here and I'm pooped.
*giggle*... I was just thinking the same thing :-p
Good evenoon, Sir Mane of White.

(And good evenoon to everyone!)
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j0ekerr: Gurps, for all your cross-overing needs.

Also, what is saints row 2 like?
Yahtzee has begrudgingly admitted to experiencing fun with it.
Saints row 2 is my favorite in the series
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EndreWhiteMane: I had the gurps once, very ugly. Fortunately a bit of Pepto Bismol cleared it right up. ;-)

Howdy all, busy day here and I'm pooped.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: *hugs* how are you,? How was your appointment? Hopefully better than my last
Actually had 2 doctor appts and physical therapy, all went pretty well.
My heart's OK, increased my 'head meds' and got to play in a swimming pool. :-)
I did need to wear a monitor like yours for 6 weeks once, like everything you kind of get used to it.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: *hugs* how are you,? How was your appointment? Hopefully better than my last
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EndreWhiteMane: Actually had 2 doctor appts and physical therapy, all went pretty well.
My heart's OK, increased my 'head meds' and got to play in a swimming pool. :-)
I did need to wear a monitor like yours for 6 weeks once, like everything you kind of get used to it.
I'll never get used to changing electrodes that shit hurts lol