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good morning... and good continuation of night for others..!!
Just thought I'd remind you, that ROM: Read Only Memories - A new cyberpunk adventure, seems to be getting released in just over a month, October 6th.
here's the itch.io link, which contains a nice trailer : http://midboss.itch.io/rom .
I'm thinking this might be good :)
Gooooog!! ;)
Well the Fallout Four (texture based) graphics debate still seems to be raging onward on other sites. It'll probably be a long while before I get it (if I ever do), probably not until it's a Game of the Year Edition, and I'm not their biggest fan but I'm not getting the outrage here. Fallout Four's textures look cleaner (so far) and crisper than Fallout 3, even if it's not the best looking game ever(tm).

The real issue is that the story will probably be simply awful, with terrible dialogue, bad voice acting where five guys voice 99% of the population and an overall lack of challenge in the gameplay. Plus your good ol' Bethesda bugs that they rarely get called out on. Oh and that animation, the awful awful animation...

Continuing in the streamlining process, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a GPS voice guide telling you exactly where to go and what to look for, with those walls made out of caution signs and arrows (like in racing games) funneling you to whatever your active quest involves. "Dear chosen hero, please walk forward fifteen feet and open the chest and remove the Quest Item" "Good job hero! Who's a good hero?! You are!, now please turn around and walk fifteen feet to the door"

Regardless it's going to win a bunch of awards anyway and get hailed as the best game ever of the century by most major gaming media sites/publications. So will the next Betheda game, and the one after that.
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NoNewTaleToTell: Well the Fallout Four (texture based) graphics debate still seems to be raging onward on other sites. It'll probably be a long while before I get it (if I ever do), probably not until it's a Game of the Year Edition, and I'm not their biggest fan but I'm not getting the outrage here. Fallout Four's textures look cleaner (so far) and crisper than Fallout 3, even if it's not the best looking game ever(tm).

The real issue is that the story will probably be simply awful, with terrible dialogue, bad voice acting where five guys voice 99% of the population and an overall lack of challenge in the gameplay. Plus your good ol' Bethesda bugs that they rarely get called out on. Oh and that animation, the awful awful animation...

Continuing in the streamlining process, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a GPS voice guide telling you exactly where to go and what to look for, with those walls made out of caution signs and arrows (like in racing games) funneling you to whatever your active quest involves. "Dear chosen hero, please walk forward fifteen feet and open the chest and remove the Quest Item" "Good job hero! Who's a good hero?! You are!, now please turn around and walk fifteen feet to the door"

Regardless it's going to win a bunch of awards anyway and get hailed as the best game ever of the century by most major gaming media sites/publications. So will the next Betheda game, and the one after that.
Fast storytime - I played New Vegas like it was a hack 'n slash game. No dialogue, no bartering, no quests unless I had to do so to progress, and killing absolutely every single NPC the game would let me take out.

You know what that changed about the story? Nothing.
You know what level my character was when I finished? 50.

As for the outrage, that's not surprising at all. Many people will act like dimwitted tantrum-throwing children when given the slightest excuse to do so.
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NoNewTaleToTell: Well the Fallout Four (texture based) graphics debate still seems to be raging onward on other sites. It'll probably be a long while before I get it (if I ever do), probably not until it's a Game of the Year Edition, and I'm not their biggest fan but I'm not getting the outrage here. Fallout Four's textures look cleaner (so far) and crisper than Fallout 3, even if it's not the best looking game ever(tm).

The real issue is that the story will probably be simply awful, with terrible dialogue, bad voice acting where five guys voice 99% of the population and an overall lack of challenge in the gameplay. Plus your good ol' Bethesda bugs that they rarely get called out on. Oh and that animation, the awful awful animation...

Continuing in the streamlining process, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a GPS voice guide telling you exactly where to go and what to look for, with those walls made out of caution signs and arrows (like in racing games) funneling you to whatever your active quest involves. "Dear chosen hero, please walk forward fifteen feet and open the chest and remove the Quest Item" "Good job hero! Who's a good hero?! You are!, now please turn around and walk fifteen feet to the door"

Regardless it's going to win a bunch of awards anyway and get hailed as the best game ever of the century by most major gaming media sites/publications. So will the next Betheda game, and the one after that.
hello Nnttt! ;)
You sound bitter, man... But I understand at least some of it. You could take another road, buy the Wasteland 2 if you haven't already...Then there's Cyberpunk 2077 in the making... well alright that takes some years till it's out... but I mean there's lots of quality sci-fi coming, that's not praised with capital letters by the mainstream media...
All I know I find myself happy these days following only my gut feeling and not giving a crap about anything official... of course mainstream media can be a nice tool when you want some first impressions and such...
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CarrionCrow: Fast storytime - I played New Vegas like it was a hack 'n slash game. No dialogue, no bartering, no quests unless I had to do so to progress, and killing absolutely every single NPC the game would let me take out.

You know what that changed about the story? Nothing.
You know what level my character was when I finished? 50.

As for the outrage, that's not surprising at all. Many people will act like dimwitted tantrum-throwing children when given the slightest excuse to do so.
I'm curious, how hard was it during the early game? I can't remember which version of level scaling (if any) that Obsidian used for New Vegas. On my last playthrough my character was a Luck 10 melee character and she breezed through every single fight save for the Deathclaws. Powder Gangers? Not a problem. Legionnaires? Splat! Robots? Crushed. Ghouls? Wimps. I freed the Sheriff from the prison at level three or four with just a switchblade and whatever the default armor was! I still managed to max out nearly every skill before the end of the game despite having low intelligence.

There are only a few things that can change with the story based on killing characters, and that's basically how you can finish the main quest. If memory serves you can kill all of the important main characters and still finish the main quest via a backdoor.

Bethesda's games have plenty of what I personally consider to be flaws, I just find it funny that their generally awful writing and terrible animations aren't laughed at (heck, their brain dead writing wins awards!) but they're getting flogged because of some textures. Textures that are still a clear improvement over Fallout 3's. What a world man...


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superstande: hello Nnttt! ;)
You sound bitter, man... But I understand at least some of it. You could take another road, buy the Wasteland 2 if you haven't already...Then there's Cyberpunk 2077 in the making... well alright that takes some years till it's out... but I mean there's lots of quality sci-fi coming, that's not praised with capital letters by the mainstream media...
All I know I find myself happy these days following only my gut feeling and not giving a crap about anything official... of course mainstream media can be a nice tool when you want some first impressions and such...
Hey there superstande!

Not really bitter, I'm just amazed that of all the things that Bethesda genuinely (in my opinion) deserves criticism for, it's a non-problem (in my view) that they're getting called out on.

For the record I actually enjoy Bethesda games to a degree. As a huge fan of open world games, they do a pretty decent job of creating sandboxes. Just ignore the story and focus on creating your own character and their own story and walk around whacking things with a stick and you'll have fun with their games, at least I do haha.

I'm pretty in the dark with Cyberpunk 2077, but what I've read it seems promising! I would try Wasteland 2 but I'm honestly not a big fan of turn based games. I know I know haha.

One game I'm really excited for is Mount & Blade 2: Bannerlord. I've put a whole lot of hours into Mount & Blade: Warband, and Bannerlord looks like a complete improvement over Warband.
Post edited September 05, 2015 by NoNewTaleToTell
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NoNewTaleToTell: I'm curious, how hard was it during the early game? I can't remember which version of level scaling (if any) that Obsidian used for New Vegas. On my last playthrough my character was a Luck 10 melee character and she breezed through every single fight save for the Deathclaws. Powder Gangers? Not a problem. Legionnaires? Splat! Robots? Crushed. Ghouls? Wimps. I freed the Sheriff from the prison at level three or four with just a switchblade and whatever the default armor was! I still managed to max out nearly every skill before the end of the game despite having low intelligence.

There are only a few things that can change with the story based on killing characters, and that's basically how you can finish the main quest. If memory serves you can kill all of the important main characters and still finish the main quest via a backdoor.

Bethesda's games have plenty of what I personally consider to be flaws, I just find it funny that their generally awful writing and terrible animations aren't laughed at (heck, their brain dead writing wins awards!) but they're getting flogged because of some textures. Textures that are still a clear improvement over Fallout 3's. What a world man...
I don't remember it being any huge problem. Hell, a lot of the game was that way. Aside from those two Deathclaws, and maybe cazadores until I had a massive stash of stimpacks, there wasn't anything that could really put a dent in me.
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NoNewTaleToTell: Hey there superstande!

Not really bitter, I'm just amazed that of all the things that Bethesda genuinely (in my opinion) deserves criticism for, it's a non-problem (in my view) that they're getting called out on.

For the record I actually enjoy Bethesda games to a degree. As a huge fan of open world games, they do a pretty decent job of creating sandboxes. Just ignore the story and focus on creating your own character and their own story and walk around whacking things with a stick and you'll have fun with their games, at least I do haha.

I'm pretty in the dark with Cyberpunk 2077, but what I've read it seems promising! I would try Wasteland 2 but I'm honestly not a big fan of turn based games. I know I know haha.

One game I'm really excited for is Mount & Blade 2: Bannerlord. I've put a whole lot of hours into Mount & Blade: Warband, and Bannerlord looks like a complete improvement over Warband.
Hi :) Alright, glad you're not bitter :) Ah, and thanks for clearing up things... Sometimes I expect the worst too quickly ;)
Now that you put things that way, I think I might actually enjoy some of that Fallout 3 gaming :)
About C2077, I think most of us are in the dark... but as it's CD Project Red, I'm expecting one helluva game... And it's based on Cyberpunk 2020 pen'n'paper rpg game, which I played when younger... if you are not familiar with that, it's kind of like Shadowrun but without magic and orcs and elves and such... there are deckers and fixers and some heavy weaponry... A bit of William Gibson's Neuromancer style... dark dark dark ;)
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superstande: Hi :) Alright, glad you're not bitter :) Ah, and thanks for clearing up things... Sometimes I expect the worst too quickly ;)
Now that you put things that way, I think I might actually enjoy some of that Fallout 3 gaming :)
About C2077, I think most of us are in the dark... but as it's CD Project Red, I'm expecting one helluva game... And it's based on Cyberpunk 2020 pen'n'paper rpg game, which I played when younger... if you are not familiar with that, it's kind of like Shadowrun but without magic and orcs and elves and such... there are deckers and fixers and some heavy weaponry... A bit of William Gibson's Neuromancer style... dark dark dark ;)
Cyberpunk 2077 sounds right up my alley then! I'm more than a little burnt out on "ye olde medieval setting with elves and orcs" games and I really prefer dark modern settings, like Bloodlines. Unfortunately it seems like 99% of all RPGs are set in the "ye olde medieval setting" though elves and orcs are sometimes missing.
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superstande: Hi :) Alright, glad you're not bitter :) Ah, and thanks for clearing up things... Sometimes I expect the worst too quickly ;)
Now that you put things that way, I think I might actually enjoy some of that Fallout 3 gaming :)
About C2077, I think most of us are in the dark... but as it's CD Project Red, I'm expecting one helluva game... And it's based on Cyberpunk 2020 pen'n'paper rpg game, which I played when younger... if you are not familiar with that, it's kind of like Shadowrun but without magic and orcs and elves and such... there are deckers and fixers and some heavy weaponry... A bit of William Gibson's Neuromancer style... dark dark dark ;)
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NoNewTaleToTell: Cyberpunk 2077 sounds right up my alley then! I'm more than a little burnt out on "ye olde medieval setting with elves and orcs" games and I really prefer dark modern settings, like Bloodlines. Unfortunately it seems like 99% of all RPGs are set in the "ye olde medieval setting" though elves and orcs are sometimes missing.
I get that feeling too sometimes... Too many orcs and elves is not healthy ;)
Yeah I wish the rpg genre became more like the point'n'click genre... there's a lot of sci-fi and modern stuff released like the Wadget Eye's games.
I hate when people put achievements in their games that aren't even close to realistic.

Just spent 45 minutes on a single survival level, racked up over 3,000 kills, and there are achievements for up to 7,000.
But on the bright side, I think that's dispelled any silly notion of clearing everything. I'm just going to sit on a pile of games that are a hell of a lot better so I can spend months spiking my reflexes to the point of being able to do that.
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CarrionCrow: I hate when people put achievements in their games that aren't even close to realistic.

Just spent 45 minutes on a single survival level, racked up over 3,000 kills, and there are achievements for up to 7,000.
But on the bright side, I think that's dispelled any silly notion of clearing everything. I'm just going to sit on a pile of games that are a hell of a lot better so I can spend months spiking my reflexes to the point of being able to do that.
Still on One Finger Death Punch?
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NoNewTaleToTell: Still on One Finger Death Punch?
I was, but I think I've finally had my fill. Beat student and master levels, that'll do.
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CarrionCrow: I was, but I think I've finally had my fill. Beat student and master levels, that'll do.
Any idea what game is up next?

Fran Bow was updated today but I'm still stuck with my internet, getting close and closer to my 6 gig 4G limit and I'm not interested in trying out the 3G just yet. I'm kinda stuck in Fran Bow as it is, as I've just been shoved into a pretty large area where you have to change each area several times to get items needed to move on, so it's really like being stuck in four large areas that you have to scour through.

Found a bug in Risen 2 where one of the "Talents" (or whatever they're calling them) doesn't seem to work properly after unlocking it, and that's kinda knocked the wind out of my enthusiasm for it at the moment. Minor thing, but I'm just not getting immersed into Risen 2 that heavily anyway.
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NoNewTaleToTell: Any idea what game is up next?

Fran Bow was updated today but I'm still stuck with my internet, getting close and closer to my 6 gig 4G limit and I'm not interested in trying out the 3G just yet. I'm kinda stuck in Fran Bow as it is, as I've just been shoved into a pretty large area where you have to change each area several times to get items needed to move on, so it's really like being stuck in four large areas that you have to scour through.

Found a bug in Risen 2 where one of the "Talents" (or whatever they're calling them) doesn't seem to work properly after unlocking it, and that's kinda knocked the wind out of my enthusiasm for it at the moment. Minor thing, but I'm just not getting immersed into Risen 2 that heavily anyway.
Think I'll go back to the combo of Not A Hero and Ronin for the time being. The first is a good 2-D shooter that tries too hard to be wacky, and the other is a real-time stealth-action game where the combat is turn-based, a mechanic I don't think I've ever seen used that way before.

Sorry you're having the game-related difficulties, especially with you being so enthusiastic about Fran Bow previously. Sounds like they decided to slow the game pace way down.

As for the Risen bug, that's a different kind of pain in the ass. Bugs and crashes can kill motivation in a big hurry.
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CarrionCrow: Think I'll go back to the combo of Not A Hero and Ronin for the time being. The first is a good 2-D shooter that tries too hard to be wacky, and the other is a real-time stealth-action game where the combat is turn-based, a mechanic I don't think I've ever seen used that way before.

Sorry you're having the game-related difficulties, especially with you being so enthusiastic about Fran Bow previously. Sounds like they decided to slow the game pace way down.

As for the Risen bug, that's a different kind of pain in the ass. Bugs and crashes can kill motivation in a big hurry.
What do you think about Ronin? I've seen it around and it looks interesting but I've never really gave it a second look.

Yeah, I guess this is what you would call the "lore-dump" area of Fran Bow. It's not a particularly bad section, the intro and early parts of it are actually really interesting, it's just that once the lore dump is over you're left in a large area to flop around in with no direction, trying to solve a puzzle by finding items. This type of section is a pretty common problem with point and click adventure games in my experience.

The worst part of the Risen 2 bug is that it's a "talent" that makes reloading your pistols faster. The default pistol take around 20 seconds to reload and the talent (Left Handed) is supposed to "significantly" reduce that time, but it didn't for me. Firearms seem to be the way to go because 1: firearms do more damage, 2: you can't really block animals/creatures and 3: you can "action roll" away from literally everything with no reason to worry and reloading is just a cool down instead of an actual animation.