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ddickinson: That is true, but then Macs are not really gaming computers, while Linux machines can be just as PCs can be. I guess it is down to coding the game to work on each platform. But as ELT said, many now use Unity, which seems to support everything, even mobile devices.
Mostly I think it's a case of DirectX.
You need wrappers, so do the Macs, but I'd bet that those are coded by MS themselves and work better than the reverse engineered Linux ones.

You could code the games to use openGL (which sadly almost no one does) but even then, there's a lot of windows only optimization you have to deal with.

Even with Unity or Java itself, programmers tend to introduce platform-specific hacks, that are a pain to port.

The wonderful world of coding. I never had to deal with it. But while I was getting my techie title, some of the people who had to learn Visual Basic told me that oftentimes they were afraid of simply moving their project to a different machine. They told stories of how MS Visual Basic would fail to compile a project that the day before had compiled perfectly on a different machine, that was supposed to be the exact same model and type. And no one knew why.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by j0ekerr
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ddickinson: But they charge for betas now, it is called Early Access and In Development. :-)

I have never been so pleased that Sega was not here if it means us not getting that game. :-)
That's because they charge for the Windows versions ;)

Agreed :)
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j0ekerr: Mostly I think it's a case of DirectX.
You need wrappers, so do the Macs, but I'd bet that those are coded by MS themselves and work better than the reverse engineered Linux ones.

You could code the games to use openGL (which sadly almost no one does) but even then, there's a lot of windows only optimization you have to deal with.
That makes sense. I know many games mentioned using OpenGL to be more cross platform, but I guess since PC is bar far the dominant market they don't see the point in not just using the features of Direct X.

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ElTerprise: That's because they charge for the Windows versions ;)

Agreed :)
That is just Penguin favouritism. :-)


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Well I had better get some sleep while my coughing is not too bad at the moment. I hope you all have a good rest of the day, take care and have a good night!

*goodnight hugs and waves*
Post edited June 15, 2016 by ddickinson
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ddickinson: That is just Penguin favouritism. :-)


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Well I had better get some sleep while my coughing is not too bad at the moment. I hope you all have a good rest of the day, take care and have a good night!

*goodnight hugs and waves*
Rightfully so i guess :P

I wish you a good night and sleep well *big good night hugs* :)
Sleep tight Europe, good evening to all on this side of the big ball.
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EndreWhiteMane: Sleep tight Europe, good evening to all on this side of the big ball.
Good evening. =)

How're you doing tonight?
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EndreWhiteMane: Sleep tight Europe, good evening to all on this side of the big ball.
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CarrionCrow: Good evening. =)

How're you doing tonight?
Doing OK here, having coffee and watching a thunderstorm. 14 hour internet outage wasn't fun but it's back now.
How's your day been, catch any Zs?
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EndreWhiteMane: Doing OK here, having coffee and watching a thunderstorm. 14 hour internet outage wasn't fun but it's back now.
How's your day been, catch any Zs?
Any idea why it's been crapping out so much?

Normal day here. Nothing too terribly exciting.
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EndreWhiteMane: Doing OK here, having coffee and watching a thunderstorm. 14 hour internet outage wasn't fun but it's back now.
How's your day been, catch any Zs?
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CarrionCrow: Any idea why it's been crapping out so much?

Normal day here. Nothing too terribly exciting.
Their excuse was nearby road construction, not sure I believe that but as long as it's back I'm good.
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EndreWhiteMane: Their excuse was nearby road construction, not sure I believe that but as long as it's back I'm good.
Yeah, it gets old having a service you pay for not working for hours on end.

Manage to find some fun during your forced net break?
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EndreWhiteMane: Their excuse was nearby road construction, not sure I believe that but as long as it's back I'm good.
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CarrionCrow: Yeah, it gets old having a service you pay for not working for hours on end.

Manage to find some fun during your forced net break?
Work, pizza and a nap pretty well covered it. :-)
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EndreWhiteMane: Work, pizza and a nap pretty well covered it. :-)
Sounds like a plan to me. =) Bit of a dead heat between which sounds better, the food or the sleep.
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ddickinson: Porco Rosso is one of my favourites as well. Princess Mononoke is probably my favourite, partly due to nostalgia.
Okay I admit to not having seen nearly enough of these movies / fully appreciating the breadth of work there, but I always have had a soft spot for Princess Mononoke. I remember watching this one, for the first time, in "the stacks" (I don't remember why) with a woman I was dating at the time - who was helping me with my Chinese classes and was studying Japanese herself.

I'm a bit ashamed to admit it, but despite having taken a few East Asian Religion classes I had to ask her if XXX was an established norm of Japanese myth - XXX being, roughly translated "Hungry Ghost." My professors at the time wouldn't have been too proud of me for needing to ask that ;)

I have NEVER heard of Porco Rosso, and I always wanted but never did watch Howl's (I think?) Moving Castle. What was the one done just recently from the studio, where the plot centered around a Nazi era rocket scientist? I want to see that one as well - I actually will probably look into that if I can get a name here, now that I think of it.

And for Crow - I beat the Blood Demon thingie! Pretty readily, actually! AND, even better I managed to allow the two crazies to persist together! Excited ... and I knew it ;)

Just ventured into the Warehouse a bit after that - fantastic level so far. It let me do a bit of sneaking, a bit of feeding AND use a few of my skills. Love the game - so many options based on how I build out my character.
Post edited June 15, 2016 by Ixamyakxim
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Ixamyakxim: And for Crow - I beat the Blood Demon thingie! Pretty readily, actually! AND, even better I managed to allow the two crazies to persist together! Excited ... and I knew it ;)

Just ventured into the Warehouse a bit after that - fantastic level so far. It let me do a bit of sneaking, a bit of feeding AND use a few of my skills. Love the game - so many options based on how I build out my character.
I knew you could take it out. =)

You're moving right along. Cryptic advice for the future - if you're not able, choose the hooker. ;)
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CarrionCrow: You're moving right along. Cryptic advice for the future - if you're not able, choose the hooker. ;)
Ooooh I like it - I can just feel the *dun dun DUuuuuuUn!* in there ... looking forward to figuring out what it means. Calling it a night now but had to give the progress check in before I headed out totally, after the advice panned out pretty well.