It goes beyond pronoun inadequacy, because genitalia are considerably less fluid than gender identity is. It becomes a moot issue *after* sexual reassignment surgery, but otherwise presents serious complexity re the use of public restrooms, for example.

And yet, you still use him pronoun. ;)

So... OP gets all riled up because of characters becoming more customizable... in a f**king Cyberpunk game!

Choose a very manly body type and a deep, very manly voice if everything else makes you feel very insecure about your sexuality, OP. It’s not like you don’t have the option of being a very manly man anymore.

You just have more options now. Including the very manly option... for manly men who have to be very manly or they would otherwise get all angry and outraged about the libruls ’n gender ’n stuff.

And just fyi, on top of all gender related stuff, read the Wikipedia articles about intersex and chromosomal variability. There aren’t only XX and XY people walking this earth. I know, it’s complicated. But it exists. And it exists more often than you think.

Why would any of give a shit if you're not buying game over such a non-issue?

Your loss, your life so why clog up the forums with this attention seeking nonsense.

Oh I see. So it like a comedy thing?

I think some people in this topic should spend a moment to read George Effinger's When Gravity Fails. It might give them some perspective on transgenderism in cyberpunk.

Actually it is and it's being done to sell the game to such people. Do you honestly think they just chose to make it not male/female and based on body type/voice out of the blue or to be nice?



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Less than 2% is not a whole lot, though.

Sounds like it might be a good recommend....will add to my list of stuff to check out.


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What if it's the tears and lamentations of the trolls you argue with and upset on the chan sites? *eddie murphy thinking.jpg*

That's where you have all the music and turn-based strategy games, there is no better place to drink.

The interview quoted claimed it was to follow the themes of cyberpunk.

But please, please, please, I beg all those who feel it is 'pandering to people who don't even play games' to boycott the hell out of this game. Organise! Vote with your wallets! Show the man! etc. Please.

So that when the game sells a bajillion copies, we can put that myth to rest (again), and those dinosaurs can hopefully finally realise they're in the minority, and crawl back under their rock.

1st bit- Without proof that is just a claim and could be made to save face and hide the acrual reason just as likely as it could be the truth.

2nd bit- By pandering I meant pandering to those of us in the LGBT community and also those who support us/those who are more PC leaning, of course.

(And likely also to get good reviews from some review sites)

I also don't believe in boycotting over such small issues so i'm not one of them and won't be doing so.

3rd bit- What dinosaurs? The perpetually outraged at words or the perpetually outraged at others getting upset over words?

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I also once had an IV drip going with meds in hospital and I had to use the toilet. They couldn't take it out of my arm at the time(and likely didn't want to have to reset it after) so I had to carefully go without ripping it free...twas also very nerve wracking.

(Also enough talk about that in case we derail with talk of hospitals and IVs. :D)

Tbf the OP was wrong and overblowing the whole thing but the talk around it was still somewhat ok(barring the silly and bad posts). I also try to respect most people's threads whenever possible.

But yeah, the thread has run it's course(OP proven wrong and info posted), so I guess it's ok to some extent.

Yeah, like its cyberpunk and being weird gendered goes with the genre. so I dont see anything "woke" about it.

To me I see it as "woke" a bit due to trying to do so likely done to sell more copies to LGBT and others. To me that counts a bit.

eh, I doubt that, if you look at the pen and paper rpg its based off of, there almost literal brains in android bodies of any gender, so its "wokeness" is doubtful.