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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 25, 2014
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HeadClot: Here - GOG is a very close runner up to Steam at least when the Assassin of Kings. 40k units sold on gog compared to Steam's 200k copies sold. Here is a link http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/11/gog-release-witcher-2-sales-stats-steam-dominates-all-competitors-combined/

We need more AA+ titles on GOG in order to get the sales of steam.
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Grargar: Then we would need exclusive AAA games. Steam has a lot of AAA exclusives. GOG has none.
No Man's Sky as a GOG exclusive?
Posted February 25, 2014
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HeadClot: No Man's Sky as a GOG exclusive?
Since when? None of the developers' previous games are available on GOG.
Posted February 25, 2014
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HeadClot: No Man's Sky as a GOG exclusive?
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Grargar: Since when? None of the developers' previous games are available on GOG.
I forgot to put maybe in my comment. Not to be taken seriously :)
Posted February 25, 2014
"1World,FairPrice" fits just within the 16 character limit for the forum title which appears under your username. You can change your title by clicking the "My Account" menu and selecting "Forum replies" and then the "My settings" tab. Also, if you weren't aware of it, there is a wishlist "feature request" item you can vote for.
Post edited February 25, 2014 by rawmilk905
Posted February 25, 2014
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hedwards: There are agreements, however if TET has one shred of integrity left after posting all this dribble, it's that the publishers are the ones that made them agree to this. As in this point is something that could go away if they get sufficiently scared.

The whole business of doing something like this that they know damn well is going to piss off a huge portion of their customer base without bothering to do any poling or research is deeply disturbing.

It might not be possible to stop them from debuting the games with the regional pricing, but if we hammer hard enough something might well change.
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HypersomniacLive: If you read the reworded ToU, it's already taken care of - it will always be the publishers twisting their arm, i.e. don't be hard on us.
Compare the new style and tone of writing with what it used to be for this exact section:
Now you're being ridiculous. They've taken care of that now, after years of using that as one of their key selling points.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Impaler26: It's sad to see regional pricing coming to GOG! :(

I hope the games from those "big publishers" are worth it (somewhat at least)...
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TheEnigmaticT: Divinity: Original Sin is an example of the kind of game we're talking about; it's already launched on Steam for early access with regional pricing, and it wouldn't be very fair of Larian to give our EU and UK users a better value for the game if they buy it from GOG.com later as opposed to Steam now.
I can understand this argument, but it doesn't make it valid. Many publishers are simply going with both Steam and GOG.com to maximise sales. This doesn't do anything to promote GOG.com's core values, and is simply making GOG.com Steam's poorer cousin.

GOG.com should stand firm in their core values of flat pricing around the world, not bend to the whims of developers simply because they want to chase the sales of Steam.

The argument that it "wouldn't be fair of Larian to give our EU and UK users better value for money for the game" can also be read as that IS apparently fair of Larian to screw over your EU and UK users by giving them poorer value for money for the game.

The argument that Regional Pricing is becoming standard in the industry is also invalid, because you know what else is also standard in the industry right now? DRM. If GOG.com is going to cave over Regional Pricing, then what is to stop GOG.com from caving over DRM as well?

This is a BIG MISTAKE for GOG.com. It shows that GOG.com is becoming more concerned with sales, than with it's vaunted stance of defending the rights of PC gamers over Regional Pricing and DRM. Given that these are the very things that draw many users to GOG.com in the first place, this is very counter intuitive, as it will potentially drive people away.

If Larian wants to include Regional Pricing, then they don't get on GOG.com. It should be that simple. This forces developers to think about how they are selling their games. As the GOG.com customer base grows, this means that Regional Pricing will result in a significant loss of sales. Instead, developers can get away with whatever they want.

Personally, I will NOT be pre-ordering any of these games. I refuse to buy them. I am not boycotting GOG.com just yet - since Regional Pricing isn't something that has been implemented universally across the GOG.com catalogue. I am giving GOG.com a chance to change it's mind on this issue, and chalk this up to a failed experiment.
Posted February 25, 2014
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rawmilk905: "1World,FairPrice" fits just within the 16 character limit for the forum title which appears under your username. You can change your title by clicking the "My Account" menu and selecting "Forum replies" and then the "My settings" tab. Also, if you weren't aware of it, there is a wishlist "feature request" item you can vote for.
Done and done
Posted February 25, 2014
I am pretty sure that people have posted this already, but let's keep this current, to remind GOG.com of what they said themselves about Regional Pricing.

After all, how can something that was unfair in 2012 suddenly become fair in 2014?

The Regional Ripoff: Why Can't Gaming Be Fair?
Posted February 25, 2014
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Marcomies: Can you promise that only new, big publisher releases of new games will be affected by regional stuff?
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TheEnigmaticT: No, I can't; contracts come up for re-negotiation all the time, and when they do there's no telling what may happen. I can promise that we did not go into this change with the intent of re-pricing swathes of our catalog of classic games in a manner that's unfair to gamers around the world. I can promise you that we will strive our utmost to keep things fair for gamers everywhere in the world. But I'm not gonna make a promise on something like this and then find in 18 months or 2 years that things turned out differently than we had thought they would.
In hindsight, I can see that you chose your words very carefully at this point, avoiding making an outright lie, while still not telling us what you (GOG) had been planning all along.
Posted February 25, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: Over the last 5 years, I believe that we have shown ourselves to be a company that is relentlessly focussed on treating our customers better than anyone else in the industry does.
I'm sorry - what!? Treating your customers better than anybody else in the industry!?

So, you mean that GOG.com is okay with treating their customers like scum, because it is better than everybody else treating their customers like crap?!

When the entire industry is reknowned for treating their customers extremely badly, you don't get to pat yourself on the back because you only treat your customers badly.

GOG.com shouldn't be aiming to treat customers better than anybody else in the industry, or even treat them the best in the industry. It should be aiming to treat the customers well.

I would rather GOG.com treat customers well in an industry where everyone treats their customers well, than have GOG.com treat their customers badly in an industry where customers are treated terribly. Because, ultimately, what matters is how the customer is treated - and I, like many others, would always prefer to be treated well, rather than treated badly, regardless of the state of the industry.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Davane: After all, how can something that was unfair in 2012 suddenly become fair in 2014?
Didn't you read the letter? It clearly said "fair local pricing".
Posted February 25, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: No, I can't; contracts come up for re-negotiation all the time, and when they do there's no telling what may happen. I can promise that we did not go into this change with the intent of re-pricing swathes of our catalog of classic games in a manner that's unfair to gamers around the world. I can promise you that we will strive our utmost to keep things fair for gamers everywhere in the world. But I'm not gonna make a promise on something like this and then find in 18 months or 2 years that things turned out differently than we had thought they would.
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Wishbone: In hindsight, I can see that you chose your words very carefully at this point, avoiding making an outright lie, while still not telling us what you (GOG) had been planning all along.
Well to be honest he cant predict the future so il give him that.
Promising that migth not be true after 5 years is even more folish in that hindsigth they probably shoudnt have promised flat prises worldwide either.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Wishbone: In hindsight, I can see that you chose your words very carefully at this point, avoiding making an outright lie, while still not telling us what you (GOG) had been planning all along.
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Lodium: Well to be honest he cant predict the future so il give him that.
Who talks about predicting the future? He already knew. Or are you implying that GOG had no plans to introduce regional pricing to the existing catalog 4 days ago, but cooked that up in the past couple of days? Or that they would keep those plans secret from their marketing director?
Posted February 25, 2014
will.not.buy.with.regional.prices.stop.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Davane: So, you mean that GOG.com is okay with treating their customers like scum,
How you've read that in his comment, I have no idea. And implementing regional pricing in certain games in order to increase their DRM-free catalogue is treating their customers like scum? Please...
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