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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: Wow. Over 3,200 posts so far. It looks like we might have a movement here. This kinda makes me want to break out the old guitar and start up a rousing chorus of the "Alice's Restaurant Massacree." We can all sing it in harmony, with feelin'. Arlo Guthrie would be so proud of us. :D
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rampancy: If we get Grim Fandango on GOG with regional pricing DRM-free this week, I get the feeling that our "movement" will be GOG's own version of the Steam Boycott Modern Warfare 2 group. :P
Bah, there's still tons of the "Lucas Arts Classics" series' with the Grim Fandangos and the Full Throttles (and the Sam 'n' Maxes) lying around the retail shelves for a fiver each over here; when push comes to shove, we'll send boxed reinforcements to strengthen morale :salute:
(kidding about sending them out btw., but if anybody's in the neighborhood, stop by for a Fandango and potatoes)
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: Wow. Over 3,200 posts so far. It looks like we might have a movement here. This kinda makes me want to break out the old guitar and start up a rousing chorus of the "Alice's Restaurant Massacree." We can all sing it in harmony, with feelin'. Arlo Guthrie would be so proud of us. :D
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donsanderson: Swell, that'll be stuck in my head for about a week!
Just for that you get to take out the garbage! ;)
You can get any game you want...
Posted February 24, 2014
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zeroxxx: If the product is shipped, digitally or physically, to your country, no matter where they were produced at, it IS in your country.

The origin of the goods doesn't matter.

Use the power necessary to protect the citizens, that's what AUS are failing at - for this particular digital joke anyway.
So now you are saying that governments should have control over all data that comes into their country? And just stop the bits they don't like? Nothing wrong with that plan!
Posted February 24, 2014
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011284mm: Many members here admit - like myself - that they will tell a corporation, distributor, producer, individual that they want to play their games, but the DRM is the problem, now maybe some of these big corporations have taken this on board and when GOG next turned up on their door step to beg for games they agreed that there was a market for their games there as people keep pleading for the DRM-free but no-one ever goes GOG both DRM-free and $ pricing throughout. So the corporations finally decide to meet half-way, GOG gives them the pricing they are use to (and the added profits too) and GOG get the games DRM-free.
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NovusBogus: This is what I suspect is going on. The gaming world at large really doesn't care abut GOG because it has no leverage, which they'll never get from the megapublishers' table scraps--especially now that most of them have an in-house DD system for their own back catalog. When Steam and Linux started out, nobody cared about them either. Both had to make some concessions to gain ground, at which point they could start pushing their vision. Slippery slope is a valid point, and maybe GOG five years from now will be just another lame Steam storefront, I don't know. But it's an equally valid point that in virtually every human endeavor in history, the idealists died poor and forgotten while their more pragmatic colleagues made the dream a reality.
I don't think GOG will even be in existence in 5 years time.

It will have been bought out by a larger distributor (probably Steam) or will have shut down as, after it continues to chip away at the core principles that gained it such a large customer base in the first place, its customers will desert it in larger and larger numbers.

Look at GamersGate. I've heard rumblings from a few sources that their share of the business is rapidly shrinking. But that's what happens when you decide to ally yourself with Steam. Your company becomes "just another game distributor". Most gamers will then say "I might as well buy on Steam".

One of my favorite companies in the world is Spain''s Mercadona. Listed as one of the world's most ethical companies, they have NEVER gone back on their principles, even when competitors' tried to force them to do by their actions.

Mercadona cuts out the middle man and buys from the manufacturer and then passes the low price onto their customers. They don't spend money on advertising and pass the savings onto their customers. They pay employees a higher wage than any other supermarket chain and spend money so they are trained better, and their employees stay longer. Happier employees = happier customers. When Spain's government increased VAT by a huge percentage, Mercadona was the first supermarket to come out and say they would NOT be passing the VAT increase onto their customers but would suck it up themselves. If you have any problem with a Mercadona product, they will take it back and refund your money no questions asked.

Consequently? They are the most successful supermarket chain in Spain and are growing at a very fast pace.

They are also the only supermarket chain in Spain that I ever buy from. Had they gone the way of the other supermarket chains, who allow price gouging of their customers, I would have stopped shopping there.
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Swell, that'll be stuck in my head for about a week!
Just for that you get to take out the garbage! ;)
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dirtyharry50: You can get any game you want...
exceptin' Fallout.....
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: You can get any game you want...
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
LOL!!!

Good one!
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: I don't think GOG will even be in existence in 5 years time.
Wow thats super pessimistic.
Posted February 24, 2014
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zeroxxx: If the product is shipped, digitally or physically, to your country, no matter where they were produced at, it IS in your country.

The origin of the goods doesn't matter.

Use the power necessary to protect the citizens, that's what AUS are failing at - for this particular digital joke anyway.
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_Bruce_: So now you are saying that governments should have control over all data that comes into their country? And just stop the bits they don't like? Nothing wrong with that plan!
There are two parts.

First, there's physical product. I fully expect that Government control everything. If you can import something without paying tax/proper authentication the problem lies with the Government (can't control own territory). That settles it for banning products.

Now the problematic digital products. It is more than easy. While of course piracy is very subtle and invisible to naked eyes, it's out of the question. For legitimate digital products, why you think it's not possible? There's region restricted products on Steam, for example. Or something like Spec Ops the Line being banned on Arab Saudi for showing Dubai in destruction. Why AUS can't exert such? If they say it's a bannable products, anything regarding bannable products are prohibited. If the companies try to sell to the AUS citizens in AUS territory, it comes as criminals. Sue them. As simple as that.

I'm not saying there's a need to stop every single bits. Just prevent them from selling the products legally, that will attract their attentions.

Why do you think game companies make censored version for Germany and AUS? It is because they need to sell in those countries. They WANT money, that's why they make the censored versions.

You're just being silly to think it can't be done (banning products).
Post edited February 24, 2014 by zeroxxx
Posted February 24, 2014
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mangamuscle: If you think it is immoral that your government allows price gouging then take it to the government, they are the ones who can clean this mess, that GOG did not offered AAA games at regional prices in the past DOES NOT CHANGE the fact the it is normal for software companies to do so and it will continue until you make your government stop them..
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_Bruce_: The government has NOTHING to do with this. The purchase is international from an international store. The government HAS performed a study into this issue, and grilled MS/Adobe/Apple and others over the issue. Their conclusion was there was nothing they could do, particularly in cases like this where GOG does not operate in Australia so they have no control at all.

How do you think government can fix it? Apeal to the UN?
Are you serious? O_o Just the same that a gas station cannot charge 50% percent more than the station two blocks away selling the same gasoline, the government has the power to outlaw any kind of price gouging, if a software produced somewhere else can be sold to USA citizens for( i.e.) 20 USD there is NO REASON for a digital distributor to charge a different price, this is simple greed from the publishers and it looks Aussies are too soft to demand their government to do their work, I have not researched this topic but seems to me import movies and music is ALSO sold for extra money over there, am I right?
Posted February 24, 2014
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dirtyharry50: You can get any game you want...
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
When in doubt search Amazon
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: I don't think GOG will even be in existence in 5 years time.
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Niggles: Wow thats super pessimistic.
Not to mention baseless.
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_Bruce_: The government has NOTHING to do with this. The purchase is international from an international store. The government HAS performed a study into this issue, and grilled MS/Adobe/Apple and others over the issue. Their conclusion was there was nothing they could do, particularly in cases like this where GOG does not operate in Australia so they have no control at all.

How do you think government can fix it? Apeal to the UN?
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mangamuscle: Are you serious? O_o Just the same that a gas station cannot charge 50% percent more than the station two blocks away selling the same gasoline, the government has the power to outlaw any kind of price gouging, if a software produced somewhere else can be sold to USA citizens for( i.e.) 20 USD there is NO REASON for a digital distributor to charge a different price, this is simple greed from the publishers and it looks Aussies are too soft to demand their government to do their work, I have not researched this topic but seems to me import movies and music is ALSO sold for extra money over there, am I right?
It doesn't really work that way, in the US, at least.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by Chacranajxy
Posted February 24, 2014
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Bloodygoodgames: I can buy absolutely every game GOG sells on a bootleg DVD here in Bangkok. I haven't done as I've loved supporting a site that sticks to its principles no matter what.

Now that it's obvious GOG doesn't have principles, and are trying to whitewash the truth by telling us all how "wonderful" it is that we'll be getting these three big games (whatever!) with regional pricing, there's not really much incentive to buy here anymore now is there.

I'll be downloading all my games over the next few weeks and then ......pretty much done here. Just like I became 'done' with GamersGate last year. Haven't bought a game there since.
Keep your account and take advantage of updates and support and forum info though. No use giving up what you've already paid for. As for me, I am sadly done with giveaways here and done with trying new games here unless the policy change is reversed. If something like a complete version of The Sims 2 with all EPs and SPs in one installer came here, I could not pass that up, and if a game that was part of a franchise I already like showed up I might get it, but my rampant game collecting and gifting generosity on GOG are done until I see "one world, fair price" back up on the frontpage. We were assured from the beginning that GOG was a company committed to its core values. Striking one from the list out of nowhere indicates a real shift at GOG. In the US I might not even be affected by regional pricing, but it always felt kind of like I was making a kickstarter donation to an idea I believed in when I bought from GOG. Now they're just another shady company to me.
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Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: exceptin' Fallout.....
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Rusty_Gunn: When in doubt search Amazon
Thanks but we were just playing with some song lyrics from a 46 year old (ouch) song. :)
(Why is it I can remember those but not to shut off the damn coffee pot?)
Maybe I should trade in my joystick for a walker?
NOT!

BTW: I do have all of the Fallout games and love 'em.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Chacranajxy: It doesn't really work that way, in the US, at least.
ATM the USA produces most of the software (games, music, movies, etc.) it consumes and when it does not the publishers charge LESS than what they charge in Japan/Europe, so there is no real reason for the government to act, which is the opposite of the Aussies situation (unless you mean to say you want your government to intervene so said software is sold at the same price it is sold in other 1st word countries).
Posted February 24, 2014
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donsanderson: Well this USA user isn't happy and I don't see why any of us should be.
You paying more than me doesn't strike me as any better than if the situation were reversed.
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EPurpl3: Lets be honest, Steam sucks, we will all continue to support GOG even after this and it is obvious that the prices will increase, but not for you. As long as we will all continue to support GOG and we have no choice regarding the pricing system than you should be happy that you wont have to pay more.
At least I'm not fussed whether I buy from Steam or GOG. It usually boils down to the price, and GOG just lost that advantage, and Steam has automatic updates anyway. I and many others don't find issue in the DRM aspect because the practical difference is extremely small either way – not every game on Steam uses a bullshit solution by Ubisoft or Microsoft, usually it's just Steam itself.

That is to say, cutting down on GOG purchases is not going to pain me in any way, and I'm not a unique snowflake in that respect.


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tfishell: Without going into specifics, can you confirm that GOG do have some highly-requested classics in the works?
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rampancy: I for one would be intrigued to see how the community, in all of its current anger right now over regional pricing, would react if we got Grim Fandango, Full Throttle, or Day of the Tentacle on GOG thanks to this move. It also makes me wonder what game(s) it would take for GOG to relent on being DRM-free.
Newsflash: Steam already has many old LucasArts titles, among them Fate of Atlantis, Dark Forces and The Dig. It's also had all the old UFO games for several years. If more of them are going to be re-released, they'll be on Steam anyway, absolutely guaranteed. So GOG selling out its principles doesn't make a drop of difference in what games are going to be available, because Steam already allows the DRM and regional pricing that publishers want.
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