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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 23, 2014
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Grargar: Better to vent now that the staff is missing. When they return, the crowd will have calmed down a bit.
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Niggles: GOG staff might be shocked at the reaction when they return to work on Monday (if their weekend colleagues havent passed on bits and pieces yet) LOL
I'm sure they timed the announcement for the weekend for a reason :)
Posted February 23, 2014
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Drerhu: Well..GMG and Gamersgate still have region price, and I hate how steam keep locking games if you have purchased it from another guy.

Don´t get me wrong, I understand must be a pain in Australia :\ (I don´t know how much painful, but I can have a idea since I live in the Eurozone)

But I saw other people saying "Bye Gog, I keep buying on steam" something that doesn´t make sense for me x)
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blotunga: Well I won't buy on steam, but DRM free is not something that can convince me to buy at premium. Most of the games I've bought here I bought to support the site because I loved the fact that everybody had the same deal offered. But now for example I just grab Syberia II from Groupees instead of here, because I don't care anymore.
You have totally the right to do that, but like I said, we didn´t even start to feel the region price here...so I think people are just "abandoning the ship" to early =_=

(But I totally respect your point of view,of course)
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GaminggUy45: This is what was posted on the front page. we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2
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jorlin: Who says that I will like this selection? the only selection that would be good enough is a free choice of any game I choose from the catalogue with the same monetary value as the games pushed forward to choose from.
As quoted before: "Oy, That is *not* money"
Still betther than nothing, no much help but still better.

But like I said before..I think we have explained our different points so far...but until next week, we don´t know what happen in the future (hell, future was only 3 games so far, instead keep expecting the worse, try to be a little positive people)

I´m positive since even with the bad annoucement and the video removing...still better than other sellers =_= (well, and that´s sad)
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Drerhu
Posted February 23, 2014
Possible AAA games

Thief 4 release date is either 25th or 28th (depending where you read) february

South Park Stick of Truth 4th March

cant see anything else AAA aside from Titanfall and Diablo 3 expansion in the next few months

http://www.vgreleases.com/pc/
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Niggles
Posted February 23, 2014
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groze: Our sanity would definitely benefit if you calmed your mammaries a bit.
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Selderij: Excuse me, but wasn't it you who told us to avoid assuming anything? Now you're assuming that I'm thrashing all over the place. I suppose it's a safe bet to assume back that you're crying in a fetal position in the corner, praying god to end all this needless negativity on the internet.
You can assume whatever you want.
Posted February 23, 2014
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Drerhu: ...we are in the same spot we were before the annoucement.
We cannot be in the same spot we were before the annoucement because flat-worldwide-pricing is not in the same spot with regional-unfair-pricing.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by mobutu
Posted February 23, 2014
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groze: Nowhere did The Enigmatic T and/or GOG said they're adopting an unfair pricing system. Again, there you go jumping to conclusions based alone on "it may happen".
By definition they are adopting an unfair pricing system. If someone in America pays less than someone In England or Australia for the exact same product on the exact same servers how is that fair?

Their entire news-post once you remove the spin says exactly that… that they are adopting an unfair pricing system.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by takethepain
Posted February 23, 2014
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FlameBoyBen: Gog has power, it did business with the publishers despite their principles, which they abandoned.
Well, I´d say that you as a consumer has power. GOG on the other hand... not so much. Just take what happened with Daedalic. This german dev and publisher wanted regional pricing for years now, for apparent reasons. GOG refused to obey - with the outcome that Deadalic games can be found on GOG, but customers in the german language area are not allowed to download the german-language version of Deadalic games. Cute, isn´t it?

Sure, GOG can refuse to take a game into its catalogue if a publisher stays adamant about this point, but thats it. Especially with new and much-anticipated games this scare tactic will usually not work too well, since publishers know they can make money on Steam and the like AND get DRM as a bonus.

So I really think that GOG has not much of a choice here, except "take it or leave it". But I really think GOG should leave it this time. Sure, they want and need more games for their catalogue, but actions like this, especially with the GOG-made videos around, bragging with their "no regional pricing"-policy make me immediately suspicious. I got screwed over by €A, Ubisoft at al. so often that I learned to see the signs... Which is also the reason why I avoid Steam nowadays after being customer for 10 years now. They started as something new and good and then they got greedy. Customer support and communication are absolute foreign words for Valve nowadays and it all started with those little promises which never got honoured.

I really believe the damage GOG is doing to its own business with this decision will be much higher than the benefits in the long run. I probably will not buy those games, not on GOG and not on Steam, just because this pisses me off so much. But I will keep the decision GOG made here in mind, just as many other customers probably will.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by AngryAlien
Posted February 23, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: Well, for these initial games we're talking about we have a plan to offer free games from a selected list. Beyond that, it's going to be on a case-by-case basis for a while I imagine. We certainly intend to try and offer something for every game that we sell we regional pricing. We know that 1 euro isn't 1 dollar, and we want to try to offset that.
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photoleia: I think it's important for others to see this. Int he past when GOG has had to do regional pricing (well in one case .. Witcher 2), they found some legal way around it (supplementary titles) to help make up the difference. GOG has always been against regional pricing, but if it's a legal issue, then there's not much they can do ... but they do what thy can to help offset it, and that should be appreciated. People should also notice that the regional pricing (even though I dislike it) only applies to the new release, major pre-orders. We see no talk now, and there has never been any talk before about adding regional pricing for anything else. have a little faith. GOG has a history of being one of the good guys. I think that counts for something.
It's not a legal issue, it's the publishers. If it were just a matter of collecting VAT in addition to the game price, they wouldn't just be doing it for a small number of games.

It's pretty clear that on the whole people are going to be paying more, not less, otherwise, I don't believe the publishers would be demanding this.

From the looks of it, they're using bribery to make it look like people support it hoping to slip it in after people get used to it.
Posted February 23, 2014
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Niggles: Possible AAA games

Thief 4 release date is either 25th or 28th (depending where you read) february

South Park Stick of Truth 4th March

cant see anything else AAA aside from Titanfall and Diablo 3 expansion in the next few months

http://www.vgreleases.com/pc/
I don´t know about Thief 4...but I think South park would be one, since still have a HARSH region lock in every other seller (Steam, GMG, Gamersgate, Uplay, etc) so maybe this would be the only one drm-free release.
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photoleia: I think it's important for others to see this. Int he past when GOG has had to do regional pricing (well in one case .. Witcher 2), they found some legal way around it (supplementary titles) to help make up the difference. GOG has always been against regional pricing, but if it's a legal issue, then there's not much they can do ... but they do what thy can to help offset it, and that should be appreciated. People should also notice that the regional pricing (even though I dislike it) only applies to the new release, major pre-orders. We see no talk now, and there has never been any talk before about adding regional pricing for anything else. have a little faith. GOG has a history of being one of the good guys. I think that counts for something.
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hedwards: It's not a legal issue, it's the publishers. If it were just a matter of collecting VAT in addition to the game price, they wouldn't just be doing it for a small number of games.

It's pretty clear that on the whole people are going to be paying more, not less, otherwise, I don't believe the publishers would be demanding this.

From the looks of it, they're using bribery to make it look like people support it hoping to slip it in after people get used to it.
I dunno about vats...but about pricing..yes, publishers are the one and only who decided about that (same with sales, they decided how much strong will be the discount and which days will be discounted)
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Drerhu
Posted February 23, 2014
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Niggles: GOG staff might be shocked at the reaction when they return to work on Monday (if their weekend colleagues havent passed on bits and pieces yet) LOL
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1322: I'm sure they timed the announcement for the weekend for a reason :)
Yeah, you always give someone the sack on a Friday as it leaves less time for them to be disgruntled at work and a whole weekend to get over wanting to bop your head against the water cooler.
Posted February 23, 2014
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Drerhu: ...we are in the same spot we were before the annoucement.
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mobutu: We cannot be in the same spot we were before the annoucement because flat-worldwide-pricing is not in the same spot with regional-unfair-pricing.
Do you see regional price in Gog now?

No, that´s what I mean, other sellers annouced it AND put it on our faces.

I know, this isn´t a good thing at all, but still a better one :\
Posted February 23, 2014
Even though their credibility (among other things) went way down, personally I don't think GOG would fold on DRM-free anytime soon; doubt they're that, pardon my French, dense to willingly become completely indistinguishable from the rest.

But the "slippery-slope fallacy" and "wait and see" sentiments dismissing the "overreacting masses" around here sound very similar to those expressed after the Humble THQ bundle; where those that "jumped to conclusions" about that precedent opening the floodgates and lessening Humbles position in enforcing DRM-free were shot down in a similar way. Nyeah.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by MoP
Posted February 23, 2014
I'm hitting the hay right now, need to be fresh at work tomorrow.
I'm curious how GOG will react to this.
Good day, evening or night, depending where you are all on this same lovely planet.

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/ban_all_regional_pricing_from_gog_stick_with_your_principles
Posted February 23, 2014
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Drerhu: I dunno about vats...but about pricing..yes, publishers are the one and only who decided about that (same with sales, they decided how much strong will be the discount and which days will be discounted)
AFAIK, VAT was paid from the advertised price, so the price paid was the same across the globe, even though the amount of money that GOG cleared was less in the EU then elsewhere.
Posted February 23, 2014
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Niggles: Possible AAA games

Thief 4 release date is either 25th or 28th (depending where you read) february

South Park Stick of Truth 4th March

cant see anything else AAA aside from Titanfall and Diablo 3 expansion in the next few months

http://www.vgreleases.com/pc/
Ahem. Btw, Thief 4 is neither an RPG, nor a strategy game.
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