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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 23, 2014
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Lodium: were woud we going though.
Steam?
Origin? Shudders!!!
U-play?
GMG?
D2D?
Humble Bundle?

Probably dozens more ive forgotten about.
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mobutu:
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Kyanti4869: I know Steam is DRM.... but it's the best out of the worst. Still makes it bad, but what can we do?
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mobutu: When there is no choice, you dont choose. Simple as that.
Entire world has big problems just because people choose the "lesser evil". Look where that led us, no matter the domain, be it gaming, politics etc etc.
THAT'S WHY I VOTE CTHULU!
Vote Cthulu for supreme evil overlord; because why choose the Lesser of true evils.
Posted February 23, 2014
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johnnygoging: this thread is for discussion. I suppose you'd have everybody who is disappointed here, shut up until they start getting burned? Is it OK for them to speak then?

I don't appreciate the use of the term bitching. I don't appreciate the term "cry-babies" as well. I have read much of this thread, there has been no or very little bitching.

No one is fear-mongering here.

I think you have said before that you don't use Steam. So then you don't really have experience continually running into an unfair price. Maybe if you did you might feel differently.
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groze: Nowhere did The Enigmatic T and/or GOG said they're adopting an unfair pricing system. Again, there you go jumping to conclusions based alone on "it may happen".

I'm sorry for having used the terms bitching and cry-babies. It obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but from what I gather, so far, there has been some cry-babies bitching. And, no, I don't want anyone to shut up, I just recommend thinking about this before reacting this harshly. No one will get burned, if people's fears become reality, then, yes, attack GOG with all you've got, boycott them, do whatever you think it's best. Right now this reaction just seems a bit too much.
Have to admit my initial knee jerk reaction was " Another store decides to ripoff Australians. Again". Then calmed down. Some of the reaction is over the top though - never buying from GOG again. GOG is going die... etc... harsh but understandable kneejerking...
Posted February 23, 2014
I don't like this.
Posted February 23, 2014
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blotunga: Since they've removed the "one world fair price" point from their credo, it's safe to assume that they know that the regional pricing will be unfair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRdfYwvGTos
GOG says regional pricing is a rip off.
Posted February 23, 2014
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groze: Nowhere did The Enigmatic T and/or GOG said they're adopting an unfair pricing system.
They dont have to because the wheel is already invented and they'll use the current existing bad/unfair regional prices already implemented elsewhere. Besides they already specified that regional prices are out of their hands but on the publishers hands.
So yea, it'll be an unfair pricing system. Its common sense no rocket science nor "wait and see" attitude.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by mobutu
Posted February 23, 2014
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johnnygoging: this thread is for discussion. I suppose you'd have everybody who is disappointed here, shut up until they start getting burned? Is it OK for them to speak then?

I don't appreciate the use of the term bitching. I don't appreciate the term "cry-babies" as well. I have read much of this thread, there has been no or very little bitching.

No one is fear-mongering here.

I think you have said before that you don't use Steam. So then you don't really have experience continually running into an unfair price. Maybe if you did you might feel differently.
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groze: Nowhere did The Enigmatic T and/or GOG said they're adopting an unfair pricing system. Again, there you go jumping to conclusions based alone on "it may happen".

I'm sorry for having used the terms bitching and cry-babies. It obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but from what I gather, so far, there has been some cry-babies bitching. And, no, I don't want anyone to shut up, I just recommend thinking about this before reacting this harshly. No one will get burned, if people's fears become reality, then, yes, attack GOG with all you've got, boycott them, do whatever you think it's best. Right now this reaction just seems a bit too much.
They said, the regional pricing is an unfair Rip-Off of customers(you know the video by now), and that GOG.com will stand by their 3 core values:

Q: Isn't your name Good Old Games? It seems kind of silly to sell new games on an old gaming website.

A: We've always been about our core values: DRM-free games, flat prices worldwide, and extra goodies included in our releases. So don't think about us as "Good Old Games"; think of us as "GOG.com", and perhaps you can work your way around that objection. ;)

Q: I see your terrible plot! When you guys start selling games with DRM, I will leave the Internets in disgust and never return.

A: Don't worry: we're devoted to those three core values that we mentioned above, and we know that if we ever abandoned them we'd quickly become just another digital distributor. Our goal is to become the best alternative digital distributor out there: the guys who do it differently, who respect their customers, and who can help change what the industry is doing as a result.

Source: http://www.gog.com/news/gog_coms_plan_for_the_future_gets_some_news
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Ichwillnichtmehr
Posted February 23, 2014
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blotunga: Since they've removed the "one world fair price" point from their credo, it's safe to assume that they know that the regional pricing will be unfair.
Assumptions are never safe. GOG was also under the assumption they'll never ditch worldwide flat pricing.

So try avoid assuming anything, as safe as it may seem. Just wait and see.
Posted February 23, 2014
For me personally the magnitude of the changes will influence my future behavior. If the regional pricing will be applied on all games, as it stands there are very few gog only exclusive titles left on my wishlist so I safely can say that I'll never buy from here again. If it applies only to a couple of games, then I'll just boycott those games.
Posted February 23, 2014
What i will find interesting *if* they go ahead with regional pricing -- will they have it in the FAQ anywhere? Or anywhere in bold letters so buyers will understand why the pricing differentials?. I think this is interesting because i cant think of any store that even mentions regional pricing or bother to explain why prices differ for one buyer vs another (most cant see any price comparison anyway unless u got to places like steamprices.com and see the prices side by side) ie Steam only shows the prices applicable to the store for your account, GG has their .com for one mob .uk for other purchases. I think GMG had something similar a while back?.Or at least thats my understanding. With apparently only the new AAA games being affected, will they point it out to the potential buyer before purchase? (its a given publishers wont want that to happens. but will gog do it for their customers .....or hide it?). Sorry being realistic.
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blotunga: For me personally the magnitude of the changes will influence my future behavior. If the regional pricing will be applied on all games, as it stands there are very few gog only exclusive titles left on my wishlist so I safely can say that I'll never buy from here again. If it applies only to a couple of games, then I'll just boycott those games.
Even if the prices are cheaper during sales AND u get the game drm free?
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Niggles
Posted February 23, 2014
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GhostwriterDoF: Many of us are understandably upset about the regional pricing, whether it affects us directly or not, however, let’s try not to lose our heads, and be rational. Take a moment to think things through. Pricing is going to ultimately be decided by sales, our voting with our wallets, and pricing will be adjusted over time.

If we are ever to move the DRM free Revolution forward, then we must get the big AAA Developers and Publishers on board with us, in the DRM free distribution markets. And this isn’t just about Gaming, we can expand the cause to Movies, Music and Literature or reference materials as well.

GoG has made a compromise in their pricing principles to make this happen. The AAA Devs and Pubs have made a compromise on their DRM policies to make this happen. Unfortunately the current structure of the large business models are bound to regional pricing and content restrictions, but that doesn’t mean that it will always remain so.

We must be constructive in our criticisms, expressing our influence as a community to be more forward thinking. Let’s welcome these new Devs and Pubs that release their Titles on all DRM free sites.

When it comes to restricted access to content, that is something we can petition Governments and businesses to ease up on, if we make a compromise with possible posted warnings and/or age restriction guidelines, to let individuals decide whether the content is appropriate for them.

(an echo of my post in another thread... ) :P
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JohnnyDollar: That seems sound to me I suppose. It can be interpreted by some as a little grandiose, but if you do believe in the DRM-free revolution and GOG's commitment to it...
Actually it's a little bit too much U2 'i'm a dreamer, but i'm not the only one' ineffectual wankery if you ask me.
Why change try to change the world as only a group representation of effectively less than 1% taking into consideration all the varied real issues people have to choose between.
No fact of the matter is you have to keep discussions like this grass roots; 'what you can do, what you can't do & what's going to happen'.

Don't like it vote with your wallets, what are they gonna do? put the price up in response? Then i'll join you and won't buy it either. Prices go up more, it's more likely to lose more than it gains by the old adage 'half the price triple the profit' (which is why apparently huge discounts attract swathes more sales).

BTW kudos everyone for the 50 page milestone after only very few days on realistically not that big in issue in the grand scheme of things.
Posted February 23, 2014
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groze: No one will get burned, if people's fears become reality, then, yes, attack GOG with all you've got, boycott them, do whatever you think it's best. Right now this reaction just seems a bit too much.
It is too much, but if you have any experience at all on online forums, you'll learn that it's typical. I imagine you already know this, but I'm just pointing it out. Drama, FUD, and hyperbole are the norm after news such as this, unfortunately, and using reason to try calm others down is futile. :/
Post edited February 23, 2014 by JohnnyDollar
Posted February 23, 2014
Oh KEWL! Look what I found!

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Posted February 23, 2014
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Niggles: What i will find interesting *if* they go ahead with regional pricing -- will they have it in the FAQ anywhere? Or anywhere in bold letters so buyers will understand why the pricing differentials?. I think this is interesting because i cant think of any store that even mentions regional pricing or bother to explain why prices differ for one buyer vs another (most cant see any price comparison anyway unless u got to places like steamprices.com and see the prices side by side) ie Steam only shows the prices applicable to the store for your account, GG has their .com for one mob .uk for other purchases. I think GMG had something similar a while back?.Or at least thats my understanding. With apparently only the new AAA games being affected, will they point it out to the potential buyer before purchase? (its a given publishers wont want that to happens. but will gog do it for their customers .....or hide it?). Sorry being realistic.
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blotunga: For me personally the magnitude of the changes will influence my future behavior. If the regional pricing will be applied on all games, as it stands there are very few gog only exclusive titles left on my wishlist so I safely can say that I'll never buy from here again. If it applies only to a couple of games, then I'll just boycott those games.
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Niggles: Even if the prices are cheaper during sales AND u get the game drm free?
Gog was never the cheapest store. But at least everybody paid the same price for the same game. With regional pricing however I feel ripped off. Why should I pay 40% more than others just because I live in a different country.
Posted February 23, 2014
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TheOperaGhost: You've exchanged your God-given freedom for a bowl of soup (or in this case, a band-aid), and you feel righteous about it.
Why so serious bro? Why are you so full of rhetoric? As for me I have my freedom and my Band-Aid. I have more freedom than you do. So yeah I feel righteous and a little smug about it.

And If I pay a little more tax so all my brothers and sisters have an equal chance at being alive, so be it. I'd probably just waste that money anyway.
Posted February 23, 2014
Lets just all not buy these 3 titles and see how that goes for those "AAA" games. Let them rot at the bottom of the Top sellers list. Let your voice be heard through the wallet.
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