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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 22, 2014
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Nergal01: Deep Silver
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Novotnus: Regional priced Ride to Hell: Retribution confirmed :)
If this game comes here, my response will be Go to Hell: Fuck You :p
Posted February 22, 2014
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Novotnus: Regional priced Ride to Hell: Retribution confirmed :)
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1322: If this game comes here, my response will be Go to Hell: Fuck You :p
DmC PC port confirmed for GoG.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Dreadz: GOG was selling the Fallout games for one fair worldwide price. Steam was and still selling the Fallout collection for 20USD and 20EUR, a (37% price increase for EU, while the applicable VAT is only 15%...) for US and EU respectively.

I guess that's why whoever got the right decided to pull them from GOG - they just couldn't stomach offering people a fair deal. Now that GOG has betrayed it's core principle I expect Fallout 1/2 to make a return to the catalog - this time with regional pricing, setting up a wonderful precedent for the old games catalog...
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Kabuto: If that were really the case, regional pricing outbreaks should have occurred when Witcher 2 was released. Ye of little faith.
For five years GOG has preached that they have four core values. They preached and I believed with all my heart. Yesterday, they announced that they have only one core value. They also seem to be suppressing all evidence of ever being against regional pricing.

Any reasonable man would have his faith shaken by that, ye that does not wish to heed the signs. Burrow your head in the sand, tells us that we shouldn't panic, we shouldn't criticize...

If not now, then when? When all the worst has come to pass? Now is the moment for action, for strong words - while there is still something to be salvaged, while there is yet hope that GOG might reconsider their stance on the issue.
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Posted February 22, 2014
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*eats some popcorn*

This entire situation would be funny if it was not so sad kinda like watching a car crash in slow motion.
First you go out and say that publishers and others are greedy and that you guys at GoG are not. Thats why you wont ripoff your customers.

Fast forward. Well you decide to make a news post about the exciting new things arriving to GoG when you as a customer read it you hope for great things. As you continue to read you quickly understand that the "exciting" news are that GoG is now going back on their word and will now also ripoff their customers.

Then throw in some defense of said decision, censoring, avoiding and then even saying that "then we cant sell the games" or "its unfair to people that buy things from our competition".

Well in the end its a slippery slope situation. If you give up on one of the core things... You might implement other things that you would never do. Like i dont know... DRM?

Besides its going to be required. The moment you write contracts with the publishers about this they are going to get very upset with you if you allow people to circumvent the regional pricing. So how are you going to stop that? Are you going to add checks / drm?

Anyway i dont like this entire situation and if possible i buy games from GoG giving the choice now... Lets just say with how you are handling the situation you are not giving me much faith that you wont back out on other things that you have said.
Posted February 22, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: That should put a lot of folks at ease. That sounds like what GOG did with TW2. Above and beyond what other digital distributors do.
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rawmilk905: If this is the case, why is "one world, fair price" gone? Is this not how the policy worked all along with GOG adjusting for regional disparities?
It's been adjusted somehow. They've either eaten the difference or made up for it somewhere else.
Posted February 22, 2014
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rawmilk905: If this is the case, why is "one world, fair price" gone? Is this not how the policy worked all along with GOG adjusting for regional disparities?
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JohnnyDollar: It's been adjusted somehow. They've either eaten the difference or made up for it somewhere else.
I dont think giving away a game is going to solve the problem. Often times when gog gives away a game its one almost everyone owns. The only way I see this working out as it is is if gog credits the difference to someones account. That way the can choose what they want to buy.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Johnmourby: And I repeat. When They say 3 games I believe just three games till I see reason to think otherwise. Assumptions never lead to good things and paranoia is for people who wear tinfoil hats.
If you open your eyes, there is already plenty reason to think otherwise. Read the blue answers earlier in the thread. Regional pricing for existing titles was mentioned as being a possibility when new contracts need to be negotiated. Region locks weren't ruled out either.
And while none of us can predict the future with 100% accuracy it is possible to make an educated guess. Previously publishers knew that Gog wouldn't accept regional pricing. Now there is a precedent they can point to and demand regional pricing for other games too. Of course Gog can refuse to carry them as they have done in the past. But this has weakened Gog's position in the negotiations considerably.
Posted February 22, 2014
This post best explains everything http://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming/post909
Post edited February 22, 2014 by GaminggUy45
Posted February 22, 2014
The most infuriating part about all this is the "GOOD NEWS" part......if they said.....hey we fucked up, we betrayed you, we betrayed ourselves,,,,,,,ok.......but no.......bullshit all the way......i'm ver dissapointed,
Posted February 22, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: It's been adjusted somehow. They've either eaten the difference or made up for it somewhere else.
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saberwolfxm: I dont think giving away a game is going to solve the problem. Often times when gog gives away a game its one almost everyone owns. The only way I see this working out as it is is if gog credits the difference to someones account. That way the can choose what they want to buy.
I think that's what they did with TW2, they credited the difference to your GOG account that you could use to get whatever game (s) you want. You still paid the regional pricing, but GOG basically paid for your next game.

They might be trying to minimize their loss by offering specific games instead.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Johnmourby: You're acting like American rednecks who see real heath-care as the start of a soviet style dictatorship.
That's racist and absurd.

Only slaves and tyrants are afraid of Liberty.

Who deserves the fruits of one's labor, the one who works for it, or someone else? Who knows best how to spend what one earns, the person who toiled for it, or a politician? If the person who works for them doesn't deserve "all his wages," then who does? If no one can govern himself, then how can anyone govern someone else? Why would anyone think that an "elite" knows better than himself how to live his own life?

Here is the Great Emancipator, the Republic's sixteenth president, Abraham Lincoln in his seventh and last debate with Stephen Douglas, held at Alton, Illinois, October 15, 1858, speaking simple, clear, self-evident, moral truth about one of our basic, God-given, unalienable rights:

"It is the eternal struggle between these two principles — right and wrong — throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle. The one is the common right of humanity, and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, “You toil and work and earn bread, and I’ll eat it.” No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride[*] the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle."
Post edited February 22, 2014 by TheOperaGhost
Posted February 22, 2014
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Kabuto: If that were really the case, regional pricing outbreaks should have occurred when Witcher 2 was released. Ye of little faith.
Nope very different. GOG had the game via their parent company CDProjek red for a all regions same price. Then after being put on the site fore sale the physical distributor took legal action against CDProjekt red to get regional pricing in. GOG had already commited to offering the game for sale. So they had to / after losing legal case do the region thing.

Post other deals are agreed before hand that it is a set price everywhere, the principle at the time were still one price everywhere. That princiale has now been removed and several games are being negotiated with region pricing. This is the precedent.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by deonast
Posted February 22, 2014
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Johnmourby: You're acting like American rednecks who see real heath-care as the start of a soviet style dictatorship.
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TheOperaGhost: That's racist and absurd.

Only slaves and tyrants are afraid of Liberty.
I agree, I believe in having healthcare but I dont like being told what to do.not to mention all the shit happening because of it .but I'll leave it at that because this is about regional pricing not halthcare.:-D
Posted February 22, 2014
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Johnmourby: Do any of you remember the outcry over DLC being sold here?
Yes, I remember it well.
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Johnmourby: They let us vote on it and we voted yes to DLC.
Personally, I said no to it and was outnumbered, but they didn't even give us a survey this time, discouraging when this could be construed as a more serious deviation from their ethical code.
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Johnmourby: Did anything bad happen to GOG?
Compromises like that could have been part of the trajectory that led to this.
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Johnmourby: I don't like the idea of regional pricing either but for just three games I see no harm. And If this meant getting a new publisher like 2k, Bethesda or Lucasarts I'd say go for it.
I wouldn't. I'd say there are plenty of good publishers here already that could allow more titles to be released as time passes and the "newness" of more games wears off.
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Johnmourby: So yeah If you feel this is a misstep please have some faith and make some actual demands instead of forecasting doom with glee.
No glee here. I'm rather disillusioned at present, and nothing short of complete releases of The Sims 1 & 2 including all expansions and stuff packs is particularly likely to sway me on this matter as I perceive it now. (In principle, nothing would sway me, but we are none of us without our weaknesses.)
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Johnmourby: And I repeat. When They say 3 games I believe just three games till I see reason to think otherwise.
Well, why did this result in the removal of "one world, fair price" language on the site, when The Witcher 2, unless I'm mistaken, did not? I find that unsettling.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by rawmilk905
Posted February 22, 2014
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