don't require a history lesson. The point was, it has changed (ex. no alch ) then changed back (hey, I can get shitfaced again :D). Some change is for the greater good and some is for shit... can't really know until it happens.

I was going to write some response but I realized my "fairness" argument you quoted was pretty weak.

Just thought I would mention that the UK is an EU country.

But GOG is already doing this - few games here do require CD Keys to access online multiplayer...

Seeing as how the deal with the Fallout games in which Zenimax did not even acknowledge GOG's existence, it seems that GOG doesn't have much of a bargaining chip with publishers that are largely accepting of DRM, regional pricing. So GOG had to make a choice sell newer games or don't i believe they had no choice given the complications of less older games due to licensing issues,competition of indies,Steam getting more old games,etc. At the end of the day they still sell a product that is DRM-Free and that's what matters the most right.

edit: wooops. posted too soon.

Dunno why to screw the balance, instead of choosing a better solution everyone goes to the easy one, piss on the consumer, they have cash...
Well, 1$ is not 1€ and i'll prefer not to buy the games at all than to pay more for it, not gonna pirate it (i don't even have time for most of my games) but i wouldn't mind if other people do, developers and publishers are getting way too greedy.

Well, good luck with this business, i won't say that i won't buy more games here but i can assure you that i will buy way less (not that i bought many) considering the bullshit princing.

That's worth considering. However... if price increases due to localization and foreign marketing applied by default to the United States, then we would be paying more for European-made non-English productions, and for Japanese-made productions... Yet, that has never been the case. Americans have always been the only ones shielded from regional pricing.

Both have coverage in our hopes and dreams only :)

Gog has just proven to be ordinary businessmen. They want a max profit. So, on this way to max profit, there are other hurdles to be taken.... No-DRM will fall.
Understandable, either they grow or they get knocked down by Steam.
So i in one way i understandthis decision, but i´m not getting along with it.

I don't know if that VAT argument really stands. I talked to people that work in tax offices and they don't have any idea how VAT on digitally downloaded goods is handled. At least in my country, it looks like this money is not being collected by the state.

Those people in Eastern European countries have an option to still buy their games in their local retailers with reduced prices. Claiming that they needed to pay gog more money because regional pricing model was not implemented doesn't make much sense since they have a cheaper alternative.

By some administrators decision my country is always put together with rest of EU countries like Austria and Germany while our standard is more similar to Bulgaria than Germany. By introducing regional pricing model I will lose ONLY option that could provide me with cheaper alternatives.

I've been thinking about this since I first read about it yesterday and I think people are over-reacting quite a bit here.

It's unfortunate that GOG has to introduce regional pricing, but I understand the reasons for it and can accept it if it means getting more big developers & publishers on board and more AAA games released DRM-free - and possibly even make DRM-free releases of AAA titles a regular thing. For me personally, DRM-free is the most important thing about GOG and as I'm willing to pay more for DRM-free releases (or more accurately, I will pay less for DRM'ed releases) I will tolerate regional pricing for newer AAA games. I've had to put up with regional pricing everywhere else already *and that's with DRM* - so GOG offering such games with the same pricing but DRM-free is still a much better deal in my view.

Physical retail stores are still very important to the big publishers and most publishers already have a web of contracts set up with the various retail chains around the world which make it impossible to release their newer games with one worldwide price. They have to sell their games digitally at the full RRP for each region in order to appease the physical retailers - if they don't then those retailers will refuse to deal with them. If big publishers were to try selling their newer games digitally with one worldwide price, then either:

a) Physical retail stores would refuse to sell their games due to being permanently undercut online, or
b) the digital releases would use the most expensive pricing anywhere in the world so as not to undercut any retail stores.

Neither of which is a good thing. Plus, even with worldwide pricing there would still be some people getting screwed due to differing levels of wealth/income and tax for different regions.

For now I think GOG is doing the right thing by choosing to focus on DRM-free. Yes, some regions do unfortunately get screwed quite badly by regional pricing but the important thing to remember is that if GOG refused to accept regional pricing for these games, then they wouldn't be here and would still have regional pricing elsewhere - the only difference is that they simply wouldn't be available DRM-free anywhere (and likely won't include any extras that a GOG version may have). If a game's pricing for your region is unfair then you should either not buy it or wait for a sufficient discount for you to consider it worthwhile - and you should definitely complain to the publisher about it.

Regional pricing isn't going to go away any time in the near future - at least not until physical retail has shrunk to the point of irrelevance - and GOG refusing regional pricing would do nothing to accelerate that process; at best it won't make any difference and at worst it could prolong it. Regional pricing is a fight for another day IMO.

Lol, my mistake, i posted too soon when i was trying to say that " Well, 1$ is not 1€ and i can assure that something something something" and not in the sense that how it was written before the edit... well... it's true anyway! ;)

I'm not taking this good, it was always about drm-free AND customer fairness.
With this move you get closer to those bastards devs/publishers and farther away from your loyal customers, customers brought you on the number 2 place in dd.
With this move you're not fighting the good fight anymore.


Once the pandora box has been opened it is only a matter of time until the entire games catalogue on gog become region priced too (with regional locking/restrictions/censorship/etc).

Greed. DRM and Regional pricing are possible and exist only because of greed.

I honestly can see why people are so upset by this, the whole regional price gouging is stupid BS and there really is no reason for it since PC is almost all digital now it doesn't cost the devs and publishers really any more money to release their games in europe then it does in the states but I also see where GOG is coming from, they need to grow as a store and in order to do that they have to play ball to a extent is it right? hell no, but it's not entirely their fault for this move, yes they ultimately bent instead of standing their ground but the main problem and where the bulk of the blame really lies is with the publishers pure and simple since they are only doing it out of greed.

Am I disappointed with GOG yes, but as I said I see where they're coming from, either bend on this or miss out on getting newer AAA titles and keep adding to the Valve's dominance of the PC game space since there already have a hard enough time trying to attract big titles here since their is no DRM and all that crap that these braindead chimps in suits that run most major studios love. So they had to give something to help grow again, it doesn't make it right but sadly that's how the industry is right now till something is done about it, what that something is I have no clue since if governments start cracking down on this practice then publishers could decide just not sell their games there, same if gamers in those regions who are getting screwed just stop buying the games since those same brain dead chimps in suits will just look at the numbers and say "oh look at that our games don't sell well here, so why bother releasing them there" and not the reasons why.

Honestly though it would be nice to see GOG be able to get those games without the price gouging BS.

I see your point, I'm just personally interested in why the Ohio - New York American Indian Confederacy worked out well, while the European American Confederacy did not work out so well.