Someone tweet them.Was all keen for DOS. Now im not so sure

21 pages already?

Seems like mentioning that I too worry how many other compromises GOG would be willing to make in the future for the sake of more games is now moot?

Sigh, GOG. Sigh.

Also, it seems to me that by doing this, GOG has raised the white flag and admitted defeat to the publishers when it comes to their "One-world, one price" motto and core value. Now publishers will be able to push regional pricing harder, not only on GOG, but on any future up-start that might have the same idea GOG once had, and all other distributors as well. I guess GOG didn't have the guns and spirit to continue a two-front war. DRM to the East, Region Price Gouging to the West.
Yeah but I have barefoot essentials installed. Do you know where to find the info?

I sent them a message through Kickstarter, but the more avenues we try to contact them with the likelier they are to respond.

I don't agree with "one world, one price" and never have. It's ridiculous to expect Russians to pay the same price as me for video games. The trick is not to overcharge people in certain regions, to price fairly everywhere. If a game is not priced fairly for your region then ignore it, and tell GOG why.

What is ridiculous about real values and market fairness? Are you trolling?

I’d expect regional pricing to make a difference – it’s one thing for the asking price to be $30-$40 and another for it to be $50-$60+ for no other reason than your “regional” location.
But putting this aside for the moment - if the games don’t sell well enough*, will it be due to regional pricing or because of DRM-free being a niche? Will you be actually able to determine what the deciding factor was?

* How many sales determine if a game sold “well enough”? And in what time span? Is it at all related to its asking price or not?


I don’t think that anyone denied the positive things you’ve done over the past years and to be fair, this forum is evidence of the recognition and praise we’ve given you for those. I was one of the people that supported the expansion of your catalogue in 2012, but I don’t think that this change and that one are even remotely comparable**; they’re not because regional pricing puts a lot more power and over a lot more points and aspects in the hands of publishers, once in and it’s here to stay, leaving the door open for a number of alarming stuff to be added into the mix along the road. What will you do in that case? Will you tell publishers “NO”? What will you do if they go “take it or leave it”?
I know you’ll say you can’t answer this and that we should wait and see, but I think it’s only natural to have concerns and to retain them, especially when you reply as you did here.

** P1na made part of my point much clearer.

Regarding the track record of treating us with respect – I won’t deny that you do have one and it's part of the reason I like GOG, but I still think that the way you went about with this announcement doesn’t fall into that track record; as for the promises - you’ve posted multiple times that you can’t make any promises nor commit to anything, you’ve been choosing your words very carefully, repeatedly emphasising “at this moment”, “for now”, etc. and that’s why the concerns remain, including the DRM-free aspect.
Frankly, I feel that the more you post the more contradicting messages I get from you.
For example: You either have no say over the prices and pricing model that publishers demand or you do – or not? And if you keep adding latest releases under the regional pricing model, then it won’t be too long before those titles represent a good portion of your catalogue, thus no longer a small change.

As for the freebie part – sorry I’m going to be a bit blunt about it. It’s a marketing thing to push pre-orders and day-1 sales; the people that don’t do pre-orders or miss the day-1 purchase deal still get the short end of the stick – after all, you stated multiple times that it’s all in the hands of the publishers, no? But let’s for a moment say one considers the “time limited offer” – what if they already have the offered free games? Any compensation aspect is out the window and they’re still stuck with regional pricing.
Since Divinity: Original Sin keeps coming up, let’s assume this is indeed one of the three games we’re talking about (and that post about the Kickstarter GOG codes is more telling than anything else). I’ll also speculate that the freebie’s going to be one of their older games here. In this example, this will be a success story of regional pricing + GOG freebie compensation only if the majority those that buy into the time limited offer are newer members that don’t have Larian’s older games here already.

I always thought DRM-free on GOG was meant for everybody around the world, not just for those that won’t get struck by other industry standards. I guess time will tell.

Yes, but GOG isn't calling the shots. They can do as little as we can ourselves.
I actually don't have them. :B

I'm still doubtful that this deal will include lower prices e.g. for Russians; I wouldn't be surprised if the cheapest it gets will be the US $ price. But we'll see. If GOG would manage to introduce "regional pricing, done right", it could actually become a new worthy principle, but they've already admitted that it's not in their hands and completely up to publishers.

Incomes, average wages and general economies are very different. One price worldwide is not realistic or fair.

Terrible news... :(

GoG and Humble Store were the last places were I thought "hey, I can trust them, they won't screw me over, I don't have to use proxies to check if there's a massive rip-off for my region".

Now GoG and Humble Store have joined the ranks of Steam & all, letting the publishers/rights-holder do whatever they want with their customers. What's next on the list, DRMs ?

I stopped yaaring because I thought I finally found a place where developers, publishers and digital distributors would trust and respect me. I guess I was wrong.


edit : and I guess the page won't display the price for the other regions, because hiding vital information to potential customers is the right way to make business.

edit 2 : and I guess we won't be able to gift games to people living in regions where the game is more expensive.

Pretty sure under these circumstances we'll get a German version of Deponia 3 and other Daedalic games very soon :-P

The next step will be different versions for each region, followed by "Sorry, this product is not available in your region" maybe by the end of this year. In 2015 the 100% DRM-free promise will also be broken. "Don't worry, dear customers. You only need the online activation once. After it is activated, you do not need a internet connection anymore. That's good news." Cos you know "the decision is always in our partners' hands".

:-(

There was never a "one world, one price", to begin with. I would be lying if I said I don't like the pricing system that GOG employs now, as it is cheaper for me, in a poor country, to buy games on GOG than on Steam and other vendors, but the truth is that I know people in other countries that are paying "the same price" as me, but those people live in poorer countries and with banks that crap all over them, plus ludicrous 23-25% VAT they get charged, thus ending paying more than I do. I'm not saying I like this policy, but I agree with what you said so far: people can just choose to ignore the regional-priced releases, and those who want can buy them as well. If anything, we get to show the publishers, through the much advertised but never practiced "vote with our wallets", that we're not happy with that model. It's in our hands, but everyone seems to be more worried with spelling doom beforehand and not trusting GOG one bit, after all they've done these past 5 years.

Indeed. For fairness' sake, as a citizen of one of the richest countries in the world, would you be willing to pay the Euro prices, too? I could buy the games for you. ;)